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<blockquote data-quote="jdsivyer" data-source="post: 4537062" data-attributes="member: 78336">This is strictly from my point of view, ok? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" />I kept up to date with most of the WOTC announcements regarding the coming of 4e, and from what I read (a fair bit), I never got the impression that the game would be such a radical departure (in my opinion).&nbsp; I read them saying they would clarify some rules, tidy up others (grapple, etc.), to make the game more streamlined.&nbsp; But it took a while for them to state that druids, monks, gnomes, etc., would be gutted from the main core rules.&nbsp; And it took a while for me to see something that said Vancian casting would be removed (in my opinion it's been gutted - for better or worse is your opinion).If they stated somewhere that the mechanics of the game were to be radically altered, I must have missed it.The bottom line is that I feel WOTC mislead people on some of the areas in the mechanics...well, maybe not mislead, but at least ommitted from their announcements.&nbsp; Now, I know they can't tell us everything before a new edition (not many gaming companies do), but I do know that I had a much better idea of what 3e would be before it came out than I did 4e.I kept in getting the impression with 4e that it would be 3.5 but with tweaks.&nbsp; It would still be pretty much the same, just better...but not so different.That's my opinion <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="jdsivyer, post: 4537062, member: 78336"] This is strictly from my point of view, ok? :heh: I kept up to date with most of the WOTC announcements regarding the coming of 4e, and from what I read (a fair bit), I never got the impression that the game would be such a radical departure (in my opinion). I read them saying they would clarify some rules, tidy up others (grapple, etc.), to make the game more streamlined. But it took a while for them to state that druids, monks, gnomes, etc., would be gutted from the main core rules. And it took a while for me to see something that said Vancian casting would be removed (in my opinion it's been gutted - for better or worse is your opinion). If they stated somewhere that the mechanics of the game were to be radically altered, I must have missed it. The bottom line is that I feel WOTC mislead people on some of the areas in the mechanics...well, maybe not mislead, but at least ommitted from their announcements. Now, I know they can't tell us [I]everything[/I] before a new edition (not many gaming companies do), but I [I]do[/I] know that I had a much better idea of what 3e would be before it came out than I did 4e. I kept in getting the impression with 4e that it would be 3.5 but with tweaks. It would still be pretty much the same, just better...but not so [I]different[/I]. That's my opinion :) [/QUOTE]

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