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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kid Charlemagne" data-source="post: 4435172" data-attributes="member: 93">I think Halivar's got it - this thought process grew up in some players and DM's during 3E, and I'd guess that it was due to the codification of the mechanics.I don't think it was entirely new - its a variation on the "munchkin" phenomenon of 1E/2E, where the player would take advantage of rules flexibility/vagueness to spin an interpretation of mechanics that would allow them to abuse the system.  I think that 3E's codification pretty much eliminated that issue entirely (and I think it was intended to) but created a different phenomenon in its wake - the law of unintended consequences at work.Mind you, this is not something that I really ever personally experienced.  As a DM for years and years before 3E, I was well accustomed and comfortable with laying the smack down on any such behavior.  New or inexperienced DM's however, might not be as comfortable doing so.  I remember threads here at ENWorld asking if a DM modifying a stat block constituted cheating, and a surprisingly large number of people thought that it did.  I mean on the level of "you gave an orc a bastard sword instead of a great axe?  You're cheating!"  My mind boggled at the thought.</blockquote>