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<blockquote data-quote="lutecius" data-source="post: 4341753" data-attributes="member: 60332">A good proverb (Voltaire?) or a good excuse not to try. But then why would they? as long as 4e sells... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel&nbsp; &nbsp; :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" />&nbsp;Abstract rules have always been a way to simplify or balance things, never a goal in itself. I had the impression that every edition until 4e was actually trying to reduce them. And if the designers decided to completely embrace abstraction, it was quite recently. One of them mentioned that they tried to implement Armor as DR in 4e, but they copped out because it would be too hard to balance (surprise)&nbsp;I am not sure that notions like &quot;player narrative control&quot; or &quot;fortune in the middle&quot; are that easy to grasp. That is certainly more convoluted than &quot;you try, the dice decide whether you hit or miss&quot;&nbsp;That would be a new edition. The power system is so tied to the core of 4e that i don't see how it could be touched without breaking the game or reworking every class and power. This is why i hate it so much. A 3pp could give it a try. Oh no wait, they can't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lutecius, post: 4341753, member: 60332"] A good proverb (Voltaire?) or a good excuse not to try. But then why would they? as long as 4e sells... :angel: Abstract rules have always been a way to simplify or balance things, never a goal in itself. I had the impression that every edition until 4e was actually trying to reduce them. And if the designers decided to completely embrace abstraction, it was quite recently. One of them mentioned that they tried to implement Armor as DR in 4e, but they copped out because it would be too hard to balance (surprise) I am not sure that notions like "player narrative control" or "fortune in the middle" are that easy to grasp. That is certainly more convoluted than "you try, the dice decide whether you hit or miss" That would be a new edition. The power system is so tied to the core of 4e that i don't see how it could be touched without breaking the game or reworking every class and power. This is why i hate it so much. A 3pp could give it a try. Oh no wait, they can't. [/QUOTE]

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