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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4796986" data-attributes="member: 54846">It's not that I think that low level PCs shouldn't be plane hopping or stumbling into a portal to the Shadowfell. I actually like that; getting to the Shadowfell or Feywild is fairly easy - if you know what you're doing (or, perhaps if you don't).I made the observation for one reason:Unlike say, demons or undead, where there are multiple for each tier of play, the vast majority of the statted denizens of the Elemental Chaos is placed at upper Paragon through Epic.So it hurts my brain when I see natives to the EC who are 4th level. Why? Okay, let's assume your PCs encounter them. So they're close to the EC. They step out into the Elemental Chaos, run into the 3 monsters that are 4th level, and walk out of that area... they get obliterated by a Storm Titan or a Ifriit. It's like sending 1st level PCs to kill rats in Vecna's basement.So it just feels so out of place to have the lion's share at such a high level, then put something there that's the equivalent of small dogs. If the PCs come in contact with one, they're either outclassing the dogs, or they're majorly outclassed by the other stuff.</blockquote>