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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4517041" data-attributes="member: 40961">There's a pretty big gap between "I use X power" and "I roll Diplomacy to persuade the Duke to help us."  The former is a useful shorthand in a game where there are a lot of powers and where how you describe it has no effect on the outcome.  The latter has none of these attributes. Are your players actually saying "I roll diplomacy" without telling you what their characters say?  Or are they restricting that sort of behavior to things where there is no dialogue, like attacks or athletics checks to climb a rope?D&D isn't a glorified board game.  If D&D were a board game, it would be vastly sub par by modern board game standards.  That's how you can tell its an RPG. Just figured that I'd pipe up to explain that the snobbery is supposed to go the other direction. People who play go, then people who play chess, then people who play eurogames, then people who play amerigames, then RPGers.  Then people who play CCGs and LARP. Miniature gamers and people who play cardboard counter wargames are off on their own scale somewhere.</blockquote>