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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4635871" data-attributes="member: 48965">You are correct to a point... in 3e what a HP is does not exist objectively until it is lost.  At that point it can represent whatever the DM wants to describe it as, in the moment that a type of damage is taken.  Now barring extreme, adn downright stupid, examples like Mike Mearls uses with the eye socket and 2 hp's, any Dm with a modicum of common sense can relay a narrative constructed around the damage a 3.x PC takes... As physical by making a simple judgment call on the percentage of hit points the wound takes away from the PC.In 4e, unless you want your games to be as consistently absurd as Mearls example... not so.  I can knock an opponent unconscious and have him fighting not to die, yet he is in tip top shape 5 minutes later... or he is able to awake from unconsciousness by being "yelled at" by another warrior.  What types of wounds or narrative are these, and how can I describe them at the point the damage is taken so that I do not run into absurd situations?  Or am I suppose to wait until they are healed and then describe them as the type of wounds that can be healed by whatever method is employed?  I don't run into these problems with 3.5.A better analogy, I can describe both 3e hp's and 4e hp's as a dog, cat, human, etc.... 3e won't do anything particularly noticeable to disuade this notion of what it is, once I describe it... while 4e at times, actively does things a dog, cat or human can't... but only after I've chosen which one it is.  It's a purely gamist concept that at times destroys any type of coherent narrative or simulation out the window, unless one is willing to jump through major hoops.  3e just tends to get out of the way.</blockquote>

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