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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 4638921" data-attributes="member: 66434">Its completely different though. A very high hit point character could make that jump, take the damage, heal a bit of it with first aid, take a rest ( even get some sleep) and be ready to fight his enemies. This doesn't mean that he is at maximum capacity. He might still be down hp from that fall but can still fight.  The same guy with fewer hp but having the surge/rest mechanic takes the fall which leaves him with only a handful of hp, surges with a a short rest and wound bind, then gets some sleep. When he wakes up he is as ready to fight as if the fall never happened. The brutal fall which nearly claimed his life (mechanically) is forgotten after a brief nap. This is why the hp system is a poor way to model the effects of injury in general. Hps work ok as a combat resource but with the surges/ healing rates in 4E, something else was needed to model the longer lasting wounds and wasn't addressed at all.</blockquote>