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<blockquote data-quote="Aberzanzorax" data-source="post: 4777465" data-attributes="member: 64209">Man, I just don't get this. It's like you want do define modern fantasy as &quot;anything that has magic.&quot; Are there even limits or boundaries as to what modern fantasy is, given the limitiations you've put into the quoted post?&nbsp;I'm not insulted/angered/emotionally turned off by the quoted post, but man, it seems quite limiting as to how we can &quot;appropriately respond&quot; while at the same&nbsp; time expanding &quot;modern fantasy&quot; to just about the whole world of literature and movies. &nbsp;Anime?Steampunk?Would starship troopers fit?WWII demons and technology (as per Hellboy)?&nbsp;&nbsp;It's like you've asked &quot;how do we add guns to D&amp;D and still call it D&amp;D?&quot;&nbsp;When the answer was: you don't. If you add guns/lazers/lightsabers/etc. it then has crossed a line and ceases to be D&amp;D.&nbsp;&nbsp;While it's clear from other threads that D&amp;D is not a single monolithic entity with defined boundaries, it is still a realm/genre that has edges. They are wispy, but there are clearly things that are beyond those edges. Add just one of those items...ok, make orcs Klingons...and it doesn't cease to be D&amp;D. But add in the borg, a guy named DATA who is a cyborg, warp drives, space ships, and such...and it isn't modern fantasy. It also isn't D&amp;D. &nbsp;&nbsp;I fear, at least from my own perspective, that you've asked a completely reasonable question and then put strictures around it that make it impossible to answer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aberzanzorax, post: 4777465, member: 64209"] Man, I just don't get this. It's like you want do define modern fantasy as "anything that has magic." Are there even limits or boundaries as to what modern fantasy is, given the limitiations you've put into the quoted post? I'm not insulted/angered/emotionally turned off by the quoted post, but man, it seems quite limiting as to how we can "appropriately respond" while at the same time expanding "modern fantasy" to just about the whole world of literature and movies. Anime? Steampunk? Would starship troopers fit? WWII demons and technology (as per Hellboy)? It's like you've asked "how do we add guns to D&D and still call it D&D?" When the answer was: you don't. If you add guns/lazers/lightsabers/etc. it then has crossed a line and ceases to be D&D. While it's clear from other threads that D&D is not a single monolithic entity with defined boundaries, it is still a realm/genre that has edges. They are wispy, but there are clearly things that are beyond those edges. Add just one of those items...ok, make orcs Klingons...and it doesn't cease to be D&D. But add in the borg, a guy named DATA who is a cyborg, warp drives, space ships, and such...and it isn't modern fantasy. It also isn't D&D. I fear, at least from my own perspective, that you've asked a completely reasonable question and then put strictures around it that make it impossible to answer. [/QUOTE]

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