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<blockquote data-quote="Aberzanzorax" data-source="post: 4778949" data-attributes="member: 64209"><p><strong>So I looked up "modern fantasy" and...</strong></p><p></p><p>So I looked up "modern fantasy" and it seems I was (and probably wasn't alone) totally misunderstanding the term.</p><p> </p><p>I looked here:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy" target="_blank">Fantasy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p> </p><p>Which led me here:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fantasy" target="_blank">Science fantasy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p> </p><p>and here:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fantasy" target="_blank">Dark fantasy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>And so I learned about a very subtle "genre bridge" called science fantasy. My understanding from this is that "Modern fantasy" doesn't mean "fantasy that is newly written in modern times" as I believed it to be (e.g. the Golden Compass). Instead, it seems it means the modern world with a fantastic twist (using fantasy tropes/themes/magic/the supernatural/etc).</p><p> </p><p>So, that said, I'll have to take back whatever I said about what "Modern Fantasy" should be. HOWEVER, I still stand by the point that D&D is specifically Medievalist Fantasy, and not modern fantasy. </p><p> </p><p>As I've tried to explain, my perspective is that you lose something when you start making it into "anything and everything". D&D has a character of its own. Are there settings (like Spelljammer) that are Science Fantasy? Yes. Should D&D as a whole move in the direction of Spelljammer? IMO, no.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>So, I think I finally understand what the OP is asking (I hope). I think it is: "What kinds of elements would you like to add to subgenres of D&D, or indeed what subgenres would you like to see, that are pulled from Modern Fantasy, including, but not limited to Science Fantasy."</p><p> </p><p>That's a great idea for a thread, and I hope to read others thoughts on this. </p><p> </p><p>I had mistakenly thought he was asking "how would you change D&D at its very core to emphasize modern ideas and move away from the medieval fantasy component?" To that my answer would be, you don't.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>So, sorry for being so confused, and I hope my newfound clarity (at least I hope I get it now) might possibly help others who were making the same mistakes as myself, understand what this is all about.</p><p> </p><p>Again, cool thread idea, now that I get it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aberzanzorax, post: 4778949, member: 64209"] [b]So I looked up "modern fantasy" and...[/b] So I looked up "modern fantasy" and it seems I was (and probably wasn't alone) totally misunderstanding the term. I looked here: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy]Fantasy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url] Which led me here: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fantasy]Science fantasy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url] and here: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fantasy]Dark fantasy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url] And so I learned about a very subtle "genre bridge" called science fantasy. My understanding from this is that "Modern fantasy" doesn't mean "fantasy that is newly written in modern times" as I believed it to be (e.g. the Golden Compass). Instead, it seems it means the modern world with a fantastic twist (using fantasy tropes/themes/magic/the supernatural/etc). So, that said, I'll have to take back whatever I said about what "Modern Fantasy" should be. HOWEVER, I still stand by the point that D&D is specifically Medievalist Fantasy, and not modern fantasy. As I've tried to explain, my perspective is that you lose something when you start making it into "anything and everything". D&D has a character of its own. Are there settings (like Spelljammer) that are Science Fantasy? Yes. Should D&D as a whole move in the direction of Spelljammer? IMO, no. So, I think I finally understand what the OP is asking (I hope). I think it is: "What kinds of elements would you like to add to subgenres of D&D, or indeed what subgenres would you like to see, that are pulled from Modern Fantasy, including, but not limited to Science Fantasy." That's a great idea for a thread, and I hope to read others thoughts on this. I had mistakenly thought he was asking "how would you change D&D at its very core to emphasize modern ideas and move away from the medieval fantasy component?" To that my answer would be, you don't. So, sorry for being so confused, and I hope my newfound clarity (at least I hope I get it now) might possibly help others who were making the same mistakes as myself, understand what this is all about. Again, cool thread idea, now that I get it. [/QUOTE]
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