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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4780992" data-attributes="member: 22779">The Golden Compass is pretty much what a D&amp;D steampunk game could look like - flying ships, clockworks, huge gothic buildings and hand crafted constructions, and honking big empires to boot.&nbsp; It's borrowing pretty heavily from Steampunk.Keefe, I think there is a problem here that we cannot overcome.&nbsp; In the 70's when EGG and Co were creating D&amp;D, they drew on the fantasy that was popular at the time.&nbsp; Look at the bibliography in the back of the AD&amp;D DMG and half the books are less than ten years old at the time of publication.&nbsp; But, times were VERY different back then.&nbsp; You could assume, with a fair degree of accuracy, that any fan of fantasy over the age of 15 had probably read at least books by each of those authors.&nbsp; Maybe not the specific works cited, but, at least a fair chunk of the authors.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because, at the time, fantasy was a tiny niche genre tucked in on the coat tails of SF.&nbsp; That bibliography represents a fairly large chunk of all the fantasy you could read at the time.&nbsp; Certainly a large chunk of the better fantasy authors anyway.Fast forward to 2000 and the release of 3e.&nbsp; Since 2000, there have been about 400 new fantasy novels released every single year.&nbsp; That doesn't count print on demand, reprints, or franchise novels.&nbsp; That's 400 original novels every year.&nbsp; There's been more fantasy novels published in the past nine years than in the seventy years prior to 1e being released.&nbsp; And that's only novels.&nbsp; That doesn't count other media like computer games or whatever.&nbsp; You simply cannot pick a small number of fantasy authors and assume with any degree of accuracy that even a small number of your audience has read them.&nbsp; For someone who is 20 years old this year, Harry Potter has been around most of their lives.&nbsp; The first Harry Potter book came out in 1997.&nbsp; Potter's a fixture for them.&nbsp; But, other than that, you can't really point to any ten sources and presume that your audience has experienced them.&nbsp; D&amp;D is 30 years old.&nbsp; It's its own genre.&nbsp; It's the kitchen sink that everyone chucks in whatever tickles their fancy.&nbsp; And that's just peachy to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4780992, member: 22779"] The Golden Compass is pretty much what a D&D steampunk game could look like - flying ships, clockworks, huge gothic buildings and hand crafted constructions, and honking big empires to boot. It's borrowing pretty heavily from Steampunk. Keefe, I think there is a problem here that we cannot overcome. In the 70's when EGG and Co were creating D&D, they drew on the fantasy that was popular at the time. Look at the bibliography in the back of the AD&D DMG and half the books are less than ten years old at the time of publication. But, times were VERY different back then. You could assume, with a fair degree of accuracy, that any fan of fantasy over the age of 15 had probably read at least books by each of those authors. Maybe not the specific works cited, but, at least a fair chunk of the authors. Why? Because, at the time, fantasy was a tiny niche genre tucked in on the coat tails of SF. That bibliography represents a fairly large chunk of all the fantasy you could read at the time. Certainly a large chunk of the better fantasy authors anyway. Fast forward to 2000 and the release of 3e. Since 2000, there have been about 400 new fantasy novels released every single year. That doesn't count print on demand, reprints, or franchise novels. That's 400 original novels every year. There's been more fantasy novels published in the past nine years than in the seventy years prior to 1e being released. And that's only novels. That doesn't count other media like computer games or whatever. You simply cannot pick a small number of fantasy authors and assume with any degree of accuracy that even a small number of your audience has read them. For someone who is 20 years old this year, Harry Potter has been around most of their lives. The first Harry Potter book came out in 1997. Potter's a fixture for them. But, other than that, you can't really point to any ten sources and presume that your audience has experienced them. D&D is 30 years old. It's its own genre. It's the kitchen sink that everyone chucks in whatever tickles their fancy. And that's just peachy to me. [/QUOTE]

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