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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4786245" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>What you have to realize ProfC is that "anime" is just short hand for "some sort of genre that I don't like" and has nothing actually to do with the thing itself. Anime is shorthand for "amateurish, poorly drawn, poorly characterized, immature fiction" in the hands of far too many. I know, it bugs the crap out of me too, and I don't even particularly LIKE anime.</p><p></p><p>On the recognition factor.</p><p></p><p>Compare introducing a new player to a wizard in pre-4e and in 4e.</p><p></p><p>In 3e and earlier, your wizard can cast one (maybe two) spells per day, has a choice of about 5 spells (sometimes not even having a choice of what those spells were) and cast his spells by chucking random bits of trash at his enemy. Unless one were versed in Vance, none of this would remotely resemble any fictional wizard that I can think of.</p><p></p><p>In 4e, your wizard gets four or five spells that he can cast as often as he wants, plus a handful of other, more powerful spells, that are more limited, and he uses a wand (Hello Mr. Potter) or a staff (well here's our standard wizard archetype) or an orb (now this one I'm at a loss on - Pokemon maybe? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ).</p><p></p><p>Which character is going to be more instantly recognizable to a younger player?</p><p></p><p>As far as races go, we've still got our standard Tolkien races (more or less) minus the hobbits. Yup, we've got more races as well, but, something like a tiefling is going to be pretty recognizable to any current fantasy reader. Hellboy is pretty popular for one. About the only race that straight up isn't recognizable would be Dragonborn.</p><p></p><p>Even the Lovecraft element is borrowing on current trends. Look at movies like, again, Hellboy - big tentacled monsters from the beyond are pretty popular. Pratchett also uses a Far Realms in a lot of his books, particularly any of the Rincewind ones. So, while it is definitely old school to pull up Lovecraft, it's not without precedence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4786245, member: 22779"] What you have to realize ProfC is that "anime" is just short hand for "some sort of genre that I don't like" and has nothing actually to do with the thing itself. Anime is shorthand for "amateurish, poorly drawn, poorly characterized, immature fiction" in the hands of far too many. I know, it bugs the crap out of me too, and I don't even particularly LIKE anime. On the recognition factor. Compare introducing a new player to a wizard in pre-4e and in 4e. In 3e and earlier, your wizard can cast one (maybe two) spells per day, has a choice of about 5 spells (sometimes not even having a choice of what those spells were) and cast his spells by chucking random bits of trash at his enemy. Unless one were versed in Vance, none of this would remotely resemble any fictional wizard that I can think of. In 4e, your wizard gets four or five spells that he can cast as often as he wants, plus a handful of other, more powerful spells, that are more limited, and he uses a wand (Hello Mr. Potter) or a staff (well here's our standard wizard archetype) or an orb (now this one I'm at a loss on - Pokemon maybe? :) ). Which character is going to be more instantly recognizable to a younger player? As far as races go, we've still got our standard Tolkien races (more or less) minus the hobbits. Yup, we've got more races as well, but, something like a tiefling is going to be pretty recognizable to any current fantasy reader. Hellboy is pretty popular for one. About the only race that straight up isn't recognizable would be Dragonborn. Even the Lovecraft element is borrowing on current trends. Look at movies like, again, Hellboy - big tentacled monsters from the beyond are pretty popular. Pratchett also uses a Far Realms in a lot of his books, particularly any of the Rincewind ones. So, while it is definitely old school to pull up Lovecraft, it's not without precedence. [/QUOTE]
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