Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Forked Thread: I hate game balance! (How elves wrecked the wizard and game balance)
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 4338798" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>I would have allowed everyone to be gestalt. Why not?</p><p> After 30 years of my fighter wishing to heck he had a rogue handy, or my rogue wishing he had a fighter handy, or ... you know ... after 30 years of that, it would be nice to have a semi-self-reliant character.</p><p> The game was built to create non self-reliant characters. Gestalt changed that, gave characters back that multiclass flexibility.</p><p></p><p> Heh. A gestalt cleric/wizard / fighter/rogue.</p><p> 2 classes, takes 2,000 experience points to make 2nd level. Worth the trouble, because he's a Jack Of All Trades.</p><p> That way, when the whole rest of the party is fried, he might actually survive for 10 more rounds ...</p><p></p><p> And hey, who says there isn't some school that teaches it all?</p><p> The School of Wee Jas teaches wizards, and creates priests of Wee Jas. While they're at it, they martially train the student, and teach the dirty arts of streetfighting and sneak attacks, and other insundry things.</p><p> It might take a few extra *years* to become 1st level, but then your life expectancy is at least a few days longer after they kick you out to fend for yourself!</p><p></p><p> But this time, everyone can do it. No more Elves Only Allowed.</p><p></p><p> And, elves live longer than humans, and this gives them the advantage? </p><p> THIS time, we make longevity spells available (ala Monte Cook's Unearthed Arcana) so that human wizards and clerics can live a thousand years also, if they try.</p><p> So that negates the elven advantage, and better yet, humans reproduce quickly and elves don't, so humans once more rule the world! Queen Amlaruil, eat your heart out!</p><p></p><p> EDIT: I know little or nothing on Baldur's Gate. My regrets. Someone else will have to answer your question on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 4338798, member: 2020"] I would have allowed everyone to be gestalt. Why not? After 30 years of my fighter wishing to heck he had a rogue handy, or my rogue wishing he had a fighter handy, or ... you know ... after 30 years of that, it would be nice to have a semi-self-reliant character. The game was built to create non self-reliant characters. Gestalt changed that, gave characters back that multiclass flexibility. Heh. A gestalt cleric/wizard / fighter/rogue. 2 classes, takes 2,000 experience points to make 2nd level. Worth the trouble, because he's a Jack Of All Trades. That way, when the whole rest of the party is fried, he might actually survive for 10 more rounds ... And hey, who says there isn't some school that teaches it all? The School of Wee Jas teaches wizards, and creates priests of Wee Jas. While they're at it, they martially train the student, and teach the dirty arts of streetfighting and sneak attacks, and other insundry things. It might take a few extra *years* to become 1st level, but then your life expectancy is at least a few days longer after they kick you out to fend for yourself! But this time, everyone can do it. No more Elves Only Allowed. And, elves live longer than humans, and this gives them the advantage? THIS time, we make longevity spells available (ala Monte Cook's Unearthed Arcana) so that human wizards and clerics can live a thousand years also, if they try. So that negates the elven advantage, and better yet, humans reproduce quickly and elves don't, so humans once more rule the world! Queen Amlaruil, eat your heart out! EDIT: I know little or nothing on Baldur's Gate. My regrets. Someone else will have to answer your question on that. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Forked Thread: I hate game balance! (How elves wrecked the wizard and game balance)
Top