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<blockquote data-quote="Philotomy Jurament" data-source="post: 4338820" data-attributes="member: 20854">Level 4 for Fighting Man, actually.Although remember that in Chainmail and OD&amp;D, a level 4 Fighting Man is a &quot;Hero,&quot; and a level 8 Fighting Man is a &quot;Superhero&quot; (the rules called them &quot;Conan types&quot;).&nbsp; So the best Elven fighters were still of &quot;heroic&quot; stature, the equal of four men in battle; they just didn't push the limits like humans could.&nbsp; They didn't burn as hotly and brightly as human &quot;stars.&quot;&nbsp; I view the demihumans as kind of scratching their heads in wonder (and maybe disgust or envy), seeing these primitive, short-lived humans blazing their trails across the world.Incidentally, I agree that demihumans (and elves in particular) were a common player choice in my early days of gaming.&nbsp; As we got older, though, that gradually fell away.&nbsp; Humans are the most popular race for PCs in my games, these days (and since I play OD&amp;D, that generally means single-class, although dual-class is a possibility).&nbsp; Of course, these days I have a much better grasp of my &quot;world concept&quot; and of the &quot;why/behind-the-curtain&quot; aspects of the game.&nbsp; Things I dismissed in my youth as stupid rules are now embraced.&nbsp; I guess my perspective has changed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Philotomy Jurament, post: 4338820, member: 20854"] Level 4 for Fighting Man, actually. Although remember that in [i]Chainmail[/i] and OD&D, a level 4 Fighting Man is a "Hero," and a level 8 Fighting Man is a "Superhero" (the rules called them "Conan types"). So the best Elven fighters were still of "heroic" stature, the equal of four men in battle; they just didn't push the limits like humans could. They didn't burn as hotly and brightly as human "stars." I view the demihumans as kind of scratching their heads in wonder (and maybe disgust or envy), seeing these primitive, short-lived humans blazing their trails across the world. Incidentally, I agree that demihumans (and elves in particular) were a common player choice in my early days of gaming. As we got older, though, that gradually fell away. Humans are the most popular race for PCs in my games, these days (and since I play OD&D, that generally means single-class, although dual-class is a possibility). Of course, these days I have a much better grasp of my "world concept" and of the "why/behind-the-curtain" aspects of the game. Things I dismissed in my youth as stupid rules are now embraced. I guess my perspective has changed. [/QUOTE]

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