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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4588416" data-attributes="member: 48965">Nope, read what I actually posted...not what you inferred from my post, it was just one of many choices they made in 4e that added to it.  Is that more clear?  Or do you want to rephrase and misrepresent what I said some more??<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />NOTE: This is just one example of why a supposedly small change like that creates ripples.  So in D&D 3e/3.5 my illiterate barbarian wasn't going to be able to identify a magical item (scroll, weapon, armor, wand) neither was my fighter who had never seen a spellbook or glyph in his life.  In 3.5 this aspect is kept squarely in the hands of those who would know about it...mainly those involved with magic. Yet for some reason in 4e everyone now understands exactly how to identify what is a magic item, and after looking at it for 2 to 3 minutes, knows exactly what it can do.  I mean it seems like it would take someone at least a little studying of the arcane arts to do this...nope it's an innate PC race trait now (or can NPC's, etc. do this as well??)...I mean a feat isn't even necessary to do this...wth??</blockquote>