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<blockquote data-quote="BeauNiddle" data-source="post: 4391623" data-attributes="member: 836">Lets compare a 4th ed fighter to that base then shall we:Ability to take multiple AoO - CHECK (one per opponent which is an improvement)Ability to fire into melee with no penalty - CHECKWith your spare feats you can take proficiency: bastard sword and quickdraw. This allows you to use the bow until the enemy get close and then draw your sword as the opponent tries to pass you (double check the ruling with the DM but by standard you threaten the area around you with unarmed attacks and can quickdraw as part of the AoO)So by all ways I can think of the 4th ed fighter is actually better at what you want to do than your 3rd ed fighter. So I ask you again 'What do you want to acheive with your archery fighter?'The only thing I can see in your comments is the ability to kill 1st level opponents in a single blow - which you still can vs minions and which nobody can vs normal/elite/solo foes so there is no change there. (or at least if there is it's nothing to do with character generation rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BeauNiddle, post: 4391623, member: 836"] Lets compare a 4th ed fighter to that base then shall we: Ability to take multiple AoO - CHECK (one per opponent which is an improvement) Ability to fire into melee with no penalty - CHECK With your spare feats you can take proficiency: bastard sword and quickdraw. This allows you to use the bow until the enemy get close and then draw your sword as the opponent tries to pass you (double check the ruling with the DM but by standard you threaten the area around you with unarmed attacks and can quickdraw as part of the AoO) So by all ways I can think of the 4th ed fighter is actually better at what you want to do than your 3rd ed fighter. So I ask you again 'What do you want to acheive with your archery fighter?' The only thing I can see in your comments is the ability to kill 1st level opponents in a single blow - which you still can vs minions and which nobody can vs normal/elite/solo foes so there is no change there. (or at least if there is it's nothing to do with character generation rules. [/QUOTE]

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