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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VanRichten" data-source="post: 4391823" data-attributes="member: 63745">I think your point here of stating "untruth" lacks the understanding that what was stated is based on opinion.  Since opinions in essence are neither true or false.  By the poster's opinion it is in his feeling that they are homegenous in design and play.  Stating that it is untrue is akin to stating it is a lie, and doing that would be taking him out of context.  The problem with this statement is that an "adventurer" only is that experienced through adventure.  To say that he already starts like this means that he has already adventured prior thus making him that experienced.  The reason an Experience Point Chart exists is to show the level of understanding/training the adventurer has.  To have him start at such a level and never before adventure would in essence put him at a level higher than the effective point of experience he would have had otherwise.   My answer to this is that someone who is a bookworm and has been so for most of his child and adolescent life isn't going to be the most physically fit.  More so he also has not been trained to fight in such situations dealing with skill at arms, though he does have magic on his side.  Are we to say he is just as hardy and can take a knife to the chest and shrug it off to the already battle scarred fighter?  Mind you this bookworm is also the guy whose only armor is his trusty robe his teacher gave him.  The problem with this statement is the assumption that the character has spent their life learning their profession.  If this were true I would gather they would be very old and at that point most likely would be easily killed to being frail from age.  Can you please elaborate on your response.  As I have seen it I don't know that Clerics had to be wisdom based, and Paladin's had to be strength based.  In fact I have seen a cleric who acts much like a wizard, and a paladin who acts like a Spartan from the movie 300.  Maybe it is just me but have you actually read the books and considered the options available?  I will agree with the splat book part.  However I think you have lost what you are even stating.  You are comparing a fighter to a fighter, and a cleric to a cleric.   And of all things at 1st level.  Please provide examples to back this statement.  If it isn't arguable why are you arguing it?</blockquote>

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