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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 4500293" data-attributes="member: 5889">As Neo would say, "The problem is choice".Compare the 3e and 4e rangers for example. In 3e if you want to play a melee ranger, you are encourage to use TWF. You get nice bonuses it in with feats for example. I would wager the vast majority of melee rangers out there were TWFs. But...you didn't have to be. You could take the bow side, get the bow feats for when you wanted to bust out the archery, and then use a greatsword and still be just fine in combat.In 4e, if you are a ranger in melee you have to use TWF or you can't use the vast majority of powers. That's a bit more shoehorning then I like.The same with the rogue and the forced use of light weapons. I can accept that sneak attack requires a bit more finesse than a greatsword can provide, and as such you can't sneak attack with big weapons. But why are all of my rogue powers limited to a small selection of weapons? Why can't I use blinding barrage with a bow just as well as a crossbow....heck even better?Most of 4e I like, and I am in the camp that believes most of the missing stuff will be fixed with supplements. People talk about the beguiler and the bladesinger earlier in the thread. Well...it took time and supplements before those options were available. The druid didn't become a really good summoner until augment summons and spontaneous summon casting were available, etc. You can't get every option under the sun in the first books.I think the other thing I miss is the ability to change powers or use the same power multiple times. That to me is the biggest difference between BO9S martial classes and current 4e ones.And lastly, how about some cheaper, faster rituals. I don't have a problem with most wizardy things being put into ritual form. But they all don't need to have a 10 minute casting time, one minute is fine. And some rituals are crazy expensive for what they do. How about some other resources, healing surges, give me a penalty for an hour, or something. The wizard is our party is constantly draining the party funds for rituals. Now its fair, because we all benefit from them...but still, so expensive.</blockquote>

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