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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 4500971" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>Fixing it with a houserule would be simple, but it shouldn't have to be fixed. Now I know the argument will be that lots of things in 3E had to be houseruled also, and you'd be right, 3E was far from perfect. I had expected and anticipated that 4E was going to fix the problems with 3E. Instead, 4E ended up being an entirely new system with it's own problems. I don't see how this is an improvement. Every time I read the 4E PHB, I see big gaps that I need to houserule. The only problem is, as soon as I start thinking about what and how I want to change it, I realize I'd basically be houseruling almost the entirety of 3E back in. I find it a lot easier to take the parts of 4E that fixes problems with 3E, and just add them onto my 3E system (along with a few of my own ideas).</p><p> </p><p>Besides, just ignoring part of the mechanics that don't work for you, doesn't give you mechanics that work the way you want them to, just mechanics that don't work the way you don't want them to. Not the same thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 4500971, member: 59506"] Fixing it with a houserule would be simple, but it shouldn't have to be fixed. Now I know the argument will be that lots of things in 3E had to be houseruled also, and you'd be right, 3E was far from perfect. I had expected and anticipated that 4E was going to fix the problems with 3E. Instead, 4E ended up being an entirely new system with it's own problems. I don't see how this is an improvement. Every time I read the 4E PHB, I see big gaps that I need to houserule. The only problem is, as soon as I start thinking about what and how I want to change it, I realize I'd basically be houseruling almost the entirety of 3E back in. I find it a lot easier to take the parts of 4E that fixes problems with 3E, and just add them onto my 3E system (along with a few of my own ideas). Besides, just ignoring part of the mechanics that don't work for you, doesn't give you mechanics that work the way you want them to, just mechanics that don't work the way you don't want them to. Not the same thing. [/QUOTE]
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