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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 4502453" data-attributes="member: 59506">I appreciate that you feel that way, but that really isn't true for me. I can't even get past character creation. The sheer number of things I can't do, or can only do in a very preset and rigid manner, ruins it for me right out of the gate. Now I agree that there is a ton of good stuff in the 4E rules. And if I knew for certain that all I ever wanted to do was DM and never play a character, 4E would probably be my system of choice. As to that ton of good stuff, I've stolen a lot of those good parts for my houseruled 3.5E game. I find it easier to add on the good parts of 4E to 3E, rather than adding on parts of 3E to 4E. I just like significantly more of 3E than 4E.&nbsp;Does this mean I'll never play a game of 4E, absolutely not. If I encounter a 4E game, whether friends or new groups, I'd more than be up for playing a one-off. But for a long term game and a favored system, 3E is the one for me (and my group).&nbsp;However, if I do change my tune (and it's not completely outside the realm of possibility), I guarantee there will be a new thread on ENWorld the very next day, titled &quot;I changed my tune about 4E. Anyone else feel the same?&quot;, started by yours truly. You can also be sure my post will have plenty of these:<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/blush.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":blush:" title="Blush&nbsp; &nbsp; :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :o"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" />.&nbsp;But, if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that thread.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 4502453, member: 59506"] I appreciate that you feel that way, but that really isn't true for me. I can't even get past character creation. The sheer number of things I can't do, or can only do in a very preset and rigid manner, ruins it for me right out of the gate. Now I agree that there is a ton of good stuff in the 4E rules. And if I knew for certain that all I ever wanted to do was DM and never play a character, 4E would probably be my system of choice. As to that ton of good stuff, I've stolen a lot of those good parts for my houseruled 3.5E game. I find it easier to add on the good parts of 4E to 3E, rather than adding on parts of 3E to 4E. I just like significantly more of 3E than 4E. Does this mean I'll [I]never[/I] play a game of 4E, absolutely not. If I encounter a 4E game, whether friends or new groups, I'd more than be up for playing a one-off. But for a long term game and a favored system, 3E is the one for me (and my group). However, if I do change my tune (and it's not completely outside the realm of possibility), I guarantee there will be a new thread on ENWorld the very next day, titled [I]"I changed my tune about 4E. Anyone else feel the same?",[/I] started by yours truly. You can also be sure my post will have plenty of these::blush::o. But, if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that thread.;) [/QUOTE]

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