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Forked Thread: Once per day non-magical effects destroy suspension of disbelief
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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 4351472" data-attributes="member: 3424"><p>Touche. But the main point of that example was: just because it doesn't look supernatural, it doesn't mean that something supernatural isn't going on.</p><p>There's also the tiredness or overstraining argument. <em>Villian's menace</em> is not simply a matter of using superior skill. It's a matter of pushing yourself beyond normal physical limits. Going back again to the point I just made, just because it doesn't look supernatural, it doesn't mean that something supernatural isn't going on. The fighter is somehow hitting harder and more accurately than he could under normal circumstances. </p><p></p><p>Now, if your argument is that the fighter's abilities could be balanced in other ways apart from imposing a hard limit of once per day, I'd agree with you. However, if your argument is that there is no explanation for a once per day limit apart from game balance, then I disagree and have presented an alternative explanation.</p><p></p><p>Actually, you can't be repetitive about some things (encounter and daily abilities), but you can be as repetitive with your at-will abilities as you want. If you accept the premise that there are certain abilities that tire you out in some way and that you can't re-use again until you have had a short or extended rest, then there is nothing illogical about the way that the PCs are run in combat. Now, you may disagree that certain types of martial attacks should be encounter or daily abilities, but that is not the same as saying that encounter or daily abilities don't make sense or are illogical.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 4351472, member: 3424"] Touche. But the main point of that example was: just because it doesn't look supernatural, it doesn't mean that something supernatural isn't going on. There's also the tiredness or overstraining argument. [I]Villian's menace[/I] is not simply a matter of using superior skill. It's a matter of pushing yourself beyond normal physical limits. Going back again to the point I just made, just because it doesn't look supernatural, it doesn't mean that something supernatural isn't going on. The fighter is somehow hitting harder and more accurately than he could under normal circumstances. Now, if your argument is that the fighter's abilities could be balanced in other ways apart from imposing a hard limit of once per day, I'd agree with you. However, if your argument is that there is no explanation for a once per day limit apart from game balance, then I disagree and have presented an alternative explanation. Actually, you can't be repetitive about some things (encounter and daily abilities), but you can be as repetitive with your at-will abilities as you want. If you accept the premise that there are certain abilities that tire you out in some way and that you can't re-use again until you have had a short or extended rest, then there is nothing illogical about the way that the PCs are run in combat. Now, you may disagree that certain types of martial attacks should be encounter or daily abilities, but that is not the same as saying that encounter or daily abilities don't make sense or are illogical. [/QUOTE]
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