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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4363753" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>No. There is already a mechanic in 4Ed for representing missing with a powerful attack, its the "Missed" line.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Given the relative power of 1st level dailies vs higher level per encounters, HP make infinitely more sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ki is a single fountain from which all abilities flow. You don't just burn out one section of it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, hong, I can tell the diff.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you're talking about defeating 4Ed Minions, perhaps, but not all lower level opponents are 4Ed minions. Minion ≠ mook from a mechanics standpoint.</p><p></p><p>.</p><p></p><p>There is no gradation- the daily remains daily, end of story. It doesn't scale, there is no regard for relative skill.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no argument there- that is as it should be.</p><p></p><p></p><p>To you, obviously. To me, obviously not.- to me and others, it is quite disruptive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope- they still get only a single use. They're daily powers, remember?</p><p></p><p></p><p>It serves both purposes, or at least, it should if properly done.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not all martial daily powers work every time. Reliable ones can be attempted many times and work only once. Non reliable ones may or may not work, depending upon description.</p><p></p><p>Some are either poorly written or are non-mundane (like Blinding Barrage) but it isn't clear as to which it is- multiple strikes with daggers makes sense, but with crossbows or slings? (That doesn't resemble <em>any</em> movie I've seen, BTW.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Some of us like a bit more linkage between what the power does and what it says it is than 4Ed provides. The aforementioned Brute Strike does not shatter armor and bone- its just a hard hit; Mountain Breaking Blow doesn't actually affect AoOs.</p><p></p><p>(In fairness, some martial maneuvers are well linked to their power description, but some are abysmally off.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4363753, member: 19675"] No. There is already a mechanic in 4Ed for representing missing with a powerful attack, its the "Missed" line. Given the relative power of 1st level dailies vs higher level per encounters, HP make infinitely more sense. Ki is a single fountain from which all abilities flow. You don't just burn out one section of it. Sorry, hong, I can tell the diff. If you're talking about defeating 4Ed Minions, perhaps, but not all lower level opponents are 4Ed minions. Minion ≠ mook from a mechanics standpoint. . There is no gradation- the daily remains daily, end of story. It doesn't scale, there is no regard for relative skill. Yes, I do. There is no argument there- that is as it should be. To you, obviously. To me, obviously not.- to me and others, it is quite disruptive. Nope- they still get only a single use. They're daily powers, remember? It serves both purposes, or at least, it should if properly done. Not all martial daily powers work every time. Reliable ones can be attempted many times and work only once. Non reliable ones may or may not work, depending upon description. Some are either poorly written or are non-mundane (like Blinding Barrage) but it isn't clear as to which it is- multiple strikes with daggers makes sense, but with crossbows or slings? (That doesn't resemble [I]any[/I] movie I've seen, BTW.) Some of us like a bit more linkage between what the power does and what it says it is than 4Ed provides. The aforementioned Brute Strike does not shatter armor and bone- its just a hard hit; Mountain Breaking Blow doesn't actually affect AoOs. (In fairness, some martial maneuvers are well linked to their power description, but some are abysmally off.) [/QUOTE]
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