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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4537378" data-attributes="member: 7635">Your defeating your own point. Cloud of Daggers is JUST that; a zone of force attacks that create a specific effect. It doesn't Create zombie hands, it doesn't create fields of fluffy bunnies, it doesn't create illusionary birds that peck at your opponents mind. To say "reflavor cloud of daggers to create a lost spell/effect" isn't an answer, its a stopgap. At a certain point, its no longer changing magic missile from silver to fuchsia, your using cloud of daggers to replicate a large swath of missing spell effects. Its the weakness of the damage + effect structure; around the time Charm Person does "1d6 + Int and the target REALLY likes you", things start to look fishy. There are legitimate effects people have mentioned that don't exist, and no amount of recoloring existing powers is going to fix it. Especially since, in the end, your not creating a real power, your recoloring another. Might as well call your eldrich blast "Eyebite". Listen, I understand some things had to be held off because of room, future supplements, etc. Just don't tell me using Cloud of Daggers to replicate nearly any lost spell effect assumes the 4e core-rules are as robust as 3e's or 2e's. Its just not true.</blockquote>