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<blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 4537428" data-attributes="member: 66434"><p>To be honest, and I wouldn't want to be called a LIAR or anything (not that anyone here would stoop to that), I have played a ranger, a cleric, and a wizard so far in our regular group play. This is all from introductory level play. I claim no high level play experience here.</p><p> </p><p>My Eladrin bow ranger played ok, nothing super terrible to report about the experience. The character played much like an archer ranger to me.</p><p> </p><p>My Human Cleric felt more like a wizard actually. I had healing powers but they turned out to be quite incidental actually. My main heal was a minor action and didn't interfere with my casting lance of faith (holy magic missile). Other healing powers that took real actions required me to taget and hit an enemy to use, once again making the healing a side effect.</p><p> </p><p>My Human Wizard has been a mixed experience. Minions became less of a hassle after this guy joined the party but its been pretty much just a damage fest. I got rid of sleep at 2nd level because the one time I cast it it failed to live up to its name. Looking ahead at the higher level powers I see the numbers getting bigger but the same "save ends" suckage all the way through level 30. </p><p> </p><p>Watching the combats I do see differences. The fighter engages at close range, does hp damage and scoots enemies about a little, the cleric blasts away like a wizard and heals as needed as an aside, and the wizard does much the same as the cleric (minus the heals) with occasional ongoing damage or short term status effect. </p><p> </p><p>Perhaps at higher levels the differences become more pronounced. From reading I just see bigger numbers but we shall see how it plays out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExploderWizard, post: 4537428, member: 66434"] To be honest, and I wouldn't want to be called a LIAR or anything (not that anyone here would stoop to that), I have played a ranger, a cleric, and a wizard so far in our regular group play. This is all from introductory level play. I claim no high level play experience here. My Eladrin bow ranger played ok, nothing super terrible to report about the experience. The character played much like an archer ranger to me. My Human Cleric felt more like a wizard actually. I had healing powers but they turned out to be quite incidental actually. My main heal was a minor action and didn't interfere with my casting lance of faith (holy magic missile). Other healing powers that took real actions required me to taget and hit an enemy to use, once again making the healing a side effect. My Human Wizard has been a mixed experience. Minions became less of a hassle after this guy joined the party but its been pretty much just a damage fest. I got rid of sleep at 2nd level because the one time I cast it it failed to live up to its name. Looking ahead at the higher level powers I see the numbers getting bigger but the same "save ends" suckage all the way through level 30. Watching the combats I do see differences. The fighter engages at close range, does hp damage and scoots enemies about a little, the cleric blasts away like a wizard and heals as needed as an aside, and the wizard does much the same as the cleric (minus the heals) with occasional ongoing damage or short term status effect. Perhaps at higher levels the differences become more pronounced. From reading I just see bigger numbers but we shall see how it plays out. [/QUOTE]
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