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<blockquote data-quote="Samuel Leming" data-source="post: 4391220" data-attributes="member: 16462">I'm sure you're not alone. I wouldn't be surprised to find DMs that have never used any metallic dragons in their games at all.&nbsp; You could probably find DMs that have never used pixies, lizardfolk, or if you search very hard, trolls.I, however, have used the stats for all the metallic dragons at one time or another.&nbsp; Usually as allies of the party or creatures to be rescued.&nbsp; Hardly useless.&nbsp; Especially not for the world building DMs out here.Jack, what gets me is that you're constantly posting that your style of playing D&amp;D is superior to mine.&nbsp; Obviously I don't agree.&nbsp; Why can't you understand that the current D&amp;D situation is not an improvement for people that prefer a more old school/immersive/emulationist/simulationist/whatever they call it now days style of D&amp;D?Anyway, as to the topic of this thread.&nbsp; Is 4e complete?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; It's playable.&nbsp; It's fun if you meet it at least halfway and don't try to mangle it into something old school.&nbsp; Is 4e complete if you want to use it to play like most people did back in 1982?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; Barely even usable in that case.Sam</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Samuel Leming, post: 4391220, member: 16462"] I'm sure you're not alone. I wouldn't be surprised to find DMs that have never used any metallic dragons in their games at all. You could probably find DMs that have never used pixies, lizardfolk, or if you search very hard, trolls. I, however, have used the stats for all the metallic dragons at one time or another. Usually as allies of the party or creatures to be rescued. Hardly useless. Especially not for the world building DMs out here. Jack, what gets me is that you're constantly posting that your style of playing D&D is superior to mine. Obviously I don't agree. Why can't you understand that the current D&D situation is not an improvement for people that prefer a more old school/immersive/emulationist/simulationist/whatever they call it now days style of D&D? Anyway, as to the topic of this thread. Is 4e complete? Yes. It's playable. It's fun if you meet it at least halfway and don't try to mangle it into something old school. Is 4e complete if you want to use it to play like most people did back in 1982? No. Barely even usable in that case. Sam [/QUOTE]

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