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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VanRichten" data-source="post: 4394367" data-attributes="member: 63745">*) Well, the rock part. Improvised weapon (-4 to penalty, range increment probably <s>2 squares</s>10 feet . Throwing a PC? Didn't see rules for that, except maybe in Iron Heroes... Do tell me this pathetic damage thing? Last I checked a large sized creature could pick up what would be considered a rock to him, one about 12 to 18 inches in diameter and throw it. Now granted he might not be very good at it. But then again I seem to remember that Ogres carry with them Huge Sized Clubs. Clubs if you check in the PHB can be thrown. Lets not forgot that a rock of that size would at least do 1d8 damage plus the bonus of the Ogre's 24 strength at minimum. Now if we were to consider the club since it is 1d6 medium sized, that puts it about 2d10 huge sized plus the 24 strength mod (+7). I hardley consider either to be pathetic. As for throwing another character this only takes a little creativity. We could look at a "body" as a approximately the same size as the club the ogre uses. So we throw in the -4 penalty for lack of proficiency in "body" but we consider the damage about the same. Yes the ogre must make a grapple check to do this but considering size and strength I can see this happening. Like picking up the cleric and throwing it at the wizard. And you could argue the weight of the cleric in this matter. If you wish I would offer a standard 10ft range increment as for throwing anything not made to be thrown.  This does not work against the boulder's thrown by giants last I checked. And ogres are classified as giants for that purpose. It wouldn't work against a PC being thrown at the wizard either. I would like to reiterate that this is all done with a standard CR ogre right out of MM 1 3.5ed.</blockquote>

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