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Message: <blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 4749128" data-attributes="member: 3457">My old group consisted of similar types, including a former student of Dan Severin. I also knew a stripper that played a LOT of AD&D, I worked in the same club. D&D has never really been as stereotype as it is portrayed. I wasn't the school dork etc. I was in fact fairly popular in spite of loving AD&D, comic books and dating a band chick. 3 (I think, definitely 2, 5 of us played football in HS as starters) players were an integral part part of a football team that almost went to the state championship in the late 80s/early 90s. One guy went on to be a student of Dan Severin and work for a few MMA magazines in the late 90s. Essentially your examples don't mean anything is my point. My original post wasn't meaning that D&D wasn't popular or was dying by any means but that it isn't as mainstream. In fact the game is much more popular now than it was in the 90s when D&D and the industry were in a huge downward spiral, even with White Wolf's popularity. White Wolf was a completely different crowd, heck, a different paradigm from the D&D crowd. WOTC did an excellent job of trying to make D&D appeal to that crowd with 3e. Now they are trying to appeal to the WoW crowd.</blockquote>