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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4464913" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>It is not boring, because combat is ultimiately a very interesting part of the game. If it wasn't, there were fewer rules for it. Even "story-telling" games that supposedly focus less on it have complex rules to handle combat. </p><p></p><p>But anything "important" outside of combat can apply to any character. What out-of-combat options are unique to the Fighter and infeasible for a Wizard, a Rogue or a Cleric? If there were more "meta-game"/narrative/story-telling mechanics to each class, then you might have a point, but there aren't.</p><p></p><p>Maybe it was different in earlier editions, with the inconsistent skill system that treated skills with different subsystems for different class (like percentile skills for rogues, Non-Weapon Proficiencies and so on.) But we got away from that, maybe for the sake of "verisimilitude" and believability. </p><p></p><p>The name of the class is <strong>Fighter</strong>. I would expect him to be useful in combat all the time. I can get why a Rogue, Cleric, Wizard, Bard, Monk, Archivist, Scientist, Engineer, Wheelman, Warlock, Thief, Priest, Rat Catcher or what-you-have might not useful in combat at all levels (or at all). But a Fighter?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4464913, member: 710"] It is not boring, because combat is ultimiately a very interesting part of the game. If it wasn't, there were fewer rules for it. Even "story-telling" games that supposedly focus less on it have complex rules to handle combat. But anything "important" outside of combat can apply to any character. What out-of-combat options are unique to the Fighter and infeasible for a Wizard, a Rogue or a Cleric? If there were more "meta-game"/narrative/story-telling mechanics to each class, then you might have a point, but there aren't. Maybe it was different in earlier editions, with the inconsistent skill system that treated skills with different subsystems for different class (like percentile skills for rogues, Non-Weapon Proficiencies and so on.) But we got away from that, maybe for the sake of "verisimilitude" and believability. The name of the class is [B]Fighter[/B]. I would expect him to be useful in combat all the time. I can get why a Rogue, Cleric, Wizard, Bard, Monk, Archivist, Scientist, Engineer, Wheelman, Warlock, Thief, Priest, Rat Catcher or what-you-have might not useful in combat at all levels (or at all). But a Fighter? [/QUOTE]
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