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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 4650948" data-attributes="member: 158">I don't expect them to know quite that much, but at the least the core mechanic and the &quot;feel&quot; of the rules (such as whether higher is generally better, etc). I also prefer it if they have their DAMN BONUSES WRITTEN OUT AHEAD OF TIME so that they don't recalculate their totals from scratch every time. In 4E, if you have a +3 from your strength, a +2 from your weapon, and a +2 from all your feats, class features, etc. then writing a &quot;+7&quot; on that character sheet somewhere is really considered prudent, instead of:...I rolled a 14, so that's a +3 from strength, and a&nbsp; +2 for my mace, and... lessee, that's a +1 for 'fighter's prowess', and a +1 for 'mace training', so.... +3 +2 +1 +1.... 21, right?and then 2 minutes later......I rolled a 9, so...&nbsp; +3 from strength, and what's the mace again? +2? +2 for my mace, and +1 for 'fighter's prowess', and +1 for 'mace training', so.... +3 +2 +1 +1.... 16!(facepalm)I've had a fighter player do that, round after round, years ago, and it drove me batty, even after taking him aside and writing it out for him. I think he did it because it drove me batty. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 4650948, member: 158"] I don't expect them to know quite that much, but at the least the core mechanic and the "feel" of the rules (such as whether higher is generally better, etc). I also prefer it if they have their DAMN BONUSES WRITTEN OUT AHEAD OF TIME so that they don't recalculate their totals from scratch every time. In 4E, if you have a +3 from your strength, a +2 from your weapon, and a +2 from all your feats, class features, etc. then writing a "+7" on that character sheet somewhere is really considered prudent, instead of: [I] ...I rolled a 14, so that's a +3 from strength, and a +2 for my mace, and... lessee, that's a +1 for 'fighter's prowess', and a +1 for 'mace training', so.... +3 +2 +1 +1.... 21, right?[/I] and then 2 minutes later... [I] ...I rolled a 9, so... +3 from strength, and what's the mace again? +2? +2 for my mace, and +1 for 'fighter's prowess', and +1 for 'mace training', so.... +3 +2 +1 +1.... 16![/I] [B](facepalm)[/B] I've had a fighter player do that, round after round, years ago, and it drove me batty, even after taking him aside and writing it out for him. I think he did it because it drove me batty. :D [/QUOTE]

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