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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 5598597" data-attributes="member: 29398">Ayup.  And why was that?Because as a survey parameter they threw out all responses from people over a certain age (35, I think) - thus the opinion of anyone who got in during high school or college during the late 70's-early 80's WAS NOT HEARD as by 1998 they were too old!So, anyone who had started in the glory years and was still playing - in other words, those who would most be expected to have and support long campaigns - were ignored.  And from a poll I did here a while back, that includes a whole bunch of people in this forum. (side note: it's ironic this originally-3e site is largely populated by people who never got to vote for what 3e became)Quite possibly, though it can just as easily be argued that because the game design reaches that high doesn't mean it's intended to be played that high.  I always looked at the info. for very high level types merely as the framework for building BBEGs.  I've run 15th, 17th, 20th level opponents against parties, and had them encounter NPCs up to 31st level on occasion, but the highest PC I've ever DMed was 12th.Ditto.  Highest PC I've played in 1e: 11th.  Highest in 3e: 11th.Lan-"the design of all editions falls off the rails at higher levels anyway"-efan</blockquote>