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Message: <blockquote data-quote="broghammerj" data-source="post: 4356926" data-attributes="member: 1869">Ok.  Subscribing to the virtual tabletop without 3-D minis is like subscribing to a magazine for $5/month to have it delivered and then having to pay another $5 to have words printed into it.  The only reason I was remotely interested in this project is1. It allows me to game with friends that I have moved away from.2. It looks pretty cool (BTW, Tolkiens don't look cool and this is not how it was previewed)For all you talking about the great expense of 3D rendering.....Hello!  Have you seen all the mods for Neverwinter Night.  Release the engine and let the fans create everything.Check out the game Freedom Force on Google Image.  It has figures about the size of what I would expect for the vitrual tabletop.  The super hero game allows you to customize and create your own heroes.  Guess what.  In a few months you could find a skins for about every single DC/Marvel superhero and villian ever created.  Golly gee did the fans do it or did Irrational Games and Electronic Arts make their developers work overtime (for free) to create all of these renderings.WotC continued shortsightedness on this project amazes me.  Following mistakes seem pretty glaring:1. Preview the product in a format which you can't get at baseline (ie 3d minis cost extra)2. Destroy any hype and fan anticipation related to the product by making it severly delayed with no forseeable timeline.3. Miss the major debut with the product it's supposed to support (4E core books).4. Charge people for upgrades in the product while they are paying a subscription.5. Bundle the product in a subscription format with some other non-existent, severely delayed, but promised to be whiz bang cool because we told you so (character generator, Dungeon/Dragon).6. Not allow for ala carte purchasing.7. Don't provide the engine for fans to do customization.  Hello WotC....your costs will drop to about zero.8. And finally......drumroll......make a product that everyone who is playing online will have to subscribe to in order to play.  Your 6 man group of friends spread all over the country who want to play DnD will have to pay 6x15=$90 instead of the DM buying a subscription.Foot....say hello to pistol because I am shooting you.</blockquote>

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