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<blockquote data-quote="Redbadge" data-source="post: 5594528" data-attributes="member: 61463"><p>Well, I might buy it, but I probably wouldn't play it. One of my first posts, reposted here for its relevancy:</p><p></p><p>I've played every edition of Dungeons and Dragons and many other RPGs besides. D&D 4e has provided me better experiences and more fun, both as player and GM, than any other system by far. If preferring the 4e design makes me a "kid", as described in the post above, I'll wear that title proudly.</p><p> </p><p>I'd be extremely happy if 5th edition continued the design started by 4th edition, perhaps with better communication in intent and design from WotC and more ingrained flavor to draw in parts of the fractured player base. Raven Crowking has previously mentioned a possible "pendulum swing" back towards the design of earlier editions, and while I enjoy Essentials, anything more than that in 5th edition would greatly disappoint me. A fractured player base doesn't mean a lot to me, either now or going forward, because I can easily find people that love 4th edition as much as I do. In that case, I would obviously like WotC to take their resources and make an even better version of the game me and my friends enjoy now, regardless of whether or not everyone else would like it. As long as WotC sells enough of this system to keep trying and keep developing new support, hey, works for me.</p><p> </p><p>However, even if 5th edition is nothing like 4th edition, and goes backwards in ways I dislike, well, my greatest system ever has <em>already</em> been invented, with plenty of support. I can easily play 4th edition for the next 25 years (despite the assertions of RCK<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />). At most, I lose the online character builder and compendium, but oh well. If 5th edition, and 6th edition, and 7th edition don't match up with the greatness of 4e, I'll be staying with 4e. It's the same reason I switched from 3.5 to 4e; I naturally play the system I find better. I'd expect most supporters of early editions to feel the same.</p><p> </p><p>Given this, I suppose it's selfish to expect more awesome stuff from WotC, just to please me and others like me. Though I would be disappointed that I couldn't look forward to new stuff every month if 5th edition significantly changed for the worse, I wouldn't begrudge Raven Crowking and other like him from getting their wish for a couple of editions. (After all, I find the editions wars and hearty design discussion fun, as long as no one insults the debaters themselves, badwrongfun and all that<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />). Edited to add: Who knows, I may even end up liking such as direction (I would still buy the core books).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Redbadge, post: 5594528, member: 61463"] Well, I might buy it, but I probably wouldn't play it. One of my first posts, reposted here for its relevancy: I've played every edition of Dungeons and Dragons and many other RPGs besides. D&D 4e has provided me better experiences and more fun, both as player and GM, than any other system by far. If preferring the 4e design makes me a "kid", as described in the post above, I'll wear that title proudly. I'd be extremely happy if 5th edition continued the design started by 4th edition, perhaps with better communication in intent and design from WotC and more ingrained flavor to draw in parts of the fractured player base. Raven Crowking has previously mentioned a possible "pendulum swing" back towards the design of earlier editions, and while I enjoy Essentials, anything more than that in 5th edition would greatly disappoint me. A fractured player base doesn't mean a lot to me, either now or going forward, because I can easily find people that love 4th edition as much as I do. In that case, I would obviously like WotC to take their resources and make an even better version of the game me and my friends enjoy now, regardless of whether or not everyone else would like it. As long as WotC sells enough of this system to keep trying and keep developing new support, hey, works for me. However, even if 5th edition is nothing like 4th edition, and goes backwards in ways I dislike, well, my greatest system ever has [I]already[/I] been invented, with plenty of support. I can easily play 4th edition for the next 25 years (despite the assertions of RCK:p). At most, I lose the online character builder and compendium, but oh well. If 5th edition, and 6th edition, and 7th edition don't match up with the greatness of 4e, I'll be staying with 4e. It's the same reason I switched from 3.5 to 4e; I naturally play the system I find better. I'd expect most supporters of early editions to feel the same. Given this, I suppose it's selfish to expect more awesome stuff from WotC, just to please me and others like me. Though I would be disappointed that I couldn't look forward to new stuff every month if 5th edition significantly changed for the worse, I wouldn't begrudge Raven Crowking and other like him from getting their wish for a couple of editions. (After all, I find the editions wars and hearty design discussion fun, as long as no one insults the debaters themselves, badwrongfun and all that:D). Edited to add: Who knows, I may even end up liking such as direction (I would still buy the core books). [/QUOTE]
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