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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5594598" data-attributes="member: 15538">Better to whom? This thread is about what constitutes an edition war. Your post is an example of something that, while not overtly aggressive, is riddled with numerous problems as a logical argument. The biggest problem is that you are simply wrong. Now, I realize you may not believe you are wrong, and you may not feel wrong, but as far as I am concerned, you are wrong. Now, if you don't want to have an edition war with me, it would be worthwhile to try to look at why someone might have a different opinion than you do.You like 4e. You are predisposed to like 4e. My opinion is that 4e is a well-designed 4e. However, I have a lot of experience with game design, and it is my opinion that 1) the 4e design is not very robust and the core of the game is less elegant than many other games, and2) 4e is not as good a 4e as 3e is 3e, or BECMI is BECMI; I put 4e about on par with AD&amp;D and Shadowrun 3e in terms of meeting its own design goals. Definitely not a home run.You can claim 4e is an objectively better, freer system, but if you won't listen, you will never come to understand why others believe differently. You will have an unexamined opinion, and hence a less valuable one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 5594598, member: 15538"] Better to whom? This thread is about what constitutes an edition war. Your post is an example of something that, while not overtly aggressive, is riddled with numerous problems as a logical argument. The biggest problem is that you are simply wrong. Now, I realize you may not believe you are wrong, and you may not feel wrong, but as far as I am concerned, you are wrong. Now, if you don't want to have an edition war with me, it would be worthwhile to try to look at why someone might have a different opinion than you do. You like 4e. You are predisposed to like 4e. My opinion is that 4e is a well-designed 4e. However, I have a lot of experience with game design, and it is my opinion that 1) the 4e design is not very robust and the core of the game is less elegant than many other games, and 2) 4e is not as good a 4e as 3e is 3e, or BECMI is BECMI; I put 4e about on par with AD&D and Shadowrun 3e in terms of meeting its own design goals. Definitely not a home run. You can claim 4e is an objectively better, freer system, but if you won't listen, you will never come to understand why others believe differently. You will have an unexamined opinion, and hence a less valuable one. [/QUOTE]

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