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<blockquote data-quote="catastrophic" data-source="post: 5596938" data-attributes="member: 81381">You completly missed the point of the conversation. We were talking about wether or not a given edition provided better support for the playstyle you don't like. You don't like that playstyle? Fine, that has nothing to do with what we're discussing. &nbsp;Also as noted earlier, it's easy to act like everything is just a matter of opinion- but that doesn't lead to good game design. Sooner or later if you want good games, and you want games to be better, you have to get down to brass tacks instead of indulging in easy platitudes.&nbsp;Just because people refuse to accept any proof of an argument contrary to their own, doesn't mean none exists- it also doesn't mean somebody should go through the time and effort of providing such proof when it's so clear that you aren't interested in that kind of discussion. You want to act like everything is subjective? You go right ahead. That doesn't mean other people have to think about things the same way.&nbsp;And you can pretend this applies to me as much as you like, but i'm not the one who sits on this forum day after day beating the edition war drums. And yes I know- you guys also insist that it's the mean old 4e fans who keep the wars going, but that's just another side of the argument.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="catastrophic, post: 5596938, member: 81381"] You completly missed the point of the conversation. We were talking about wether or not a given edition provided better support for the playstyle you don't like. You don't like that playstyle? Fine, that has nothing to do with what we're discussing. Also as noted earlier, it's easy to act like everything is just a matter of opinion- but that doesn't lead to good game design. Sooner or later if you want good games, and you want games to be better, you have to get down to brass tacks instead of indulging in easy platitudes. Just because people refuse to accept any proof of an argument contrary to their own, doesn't mean none exists- it also doesn't mean somebody should go through the time and effort of providing such proof when it's so clear that you aren't interested in that kind of discussion. You want to act like everything is subjective? You go right ahead. That doesn't mean other people have to think about things the same way. And you can pretend this applies to me as much as you like, but i'm not the one who sits on this forum day after day beating the edition war drums. And yes I know- you guys also insist that it's the mean old 4e fans who keep the wars going, but that's just another side of the argument. [/QUOTE]

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