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Forked Thread: what do you do when bloodclaw > artifact (& HR just doesn't cut it)
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<blockquote data-quote="Badwe" data-source="post: 4849615" data-attributes="member: 61762"><p>You are right that "play a different game" is the final solution, and all the parameters you have imposed make it the only solution for you. After reading both of your threads I feel as though you have responded to, and declined, all solutions that could possibly work besides that.</p><p></p><p>You've been offered numerous helpful suggestions in TWO threads now, and none of them have been satisfying because you view the issues as being too intrinsic to 4e to be solved with mere houseruling or simply sucking it up, or any other variation proposed. At this point it seems like the only answer that hasn't been proposed is for wizards to build a time machine to go back and never print bloodclaw in AV. Short of that happening, it seems as though you've implied yourself that 4e can never be fixed in the way you want it to be, so why fight it?</p><p></p><p>Honestly, without snark or edition bashing, i think you should just play a different game. I am genuinely sorry that you view these issues in 4e as irreconcilable and that nobody else seems to see it the way you do, but forking threads about this issue and responding to the threads over and over again are not going to change that. Your own constraints are so specific that you truly have created a no-win situation for yourself. there literally isn't another solution, go play something else. If not 3.5, then maybe pathfinder or GURPS or a retro-clone. These are all also great games, they have their own differences, plusses, and minuses from 4e, but I can safely guess that they will each not have an issue of a bloodclaw weapon being better than a similarly leveled artifact and that therefore you won't have to negative house-rule. With any luck, they will also lack this vague, systemic failure that you also percieve in 4e, though I can't say for sure.</p><p></p><p>But please, just try something else. At this point I can't honestly guess what you want to hear from other people: is it just that you'd like to hear that other people see the same systemic problem with 4e? I will take you at face value that you're not simply trying to bash 4e. I am just stumped at what could possibly solve your predicament short of just trying something new, so that is my recomendation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Badwe, post: 4849615, member: 61762"] You are right that "play a different game" is the final solution, and all the parameters you have imposed make it the only solution for you. After reading both of your threads I feel as though you have responded to, and declined, all solutions that could possibly work besides that. You've been offered numerous helpful suggestions in TWO threads now, and none of them have been satisfying because you view the issues as being too intrinsic to 4e to be solved with mere houseruling or simply sucking it up, or any other variation proposed. At this point it seems like the only answer that hasn't been proposed is for wizards to build a time machine to go back and never print bloodclaw in AV. Short of that happening, it seems as though you've implied yourself that 4e can never be fixed in the way you want it to be, so why fight it? Honestly, without snark or edition bashing, i think you should just play a different game. I am genuinely sorry that you view these issues in 4e as irreconcilable and that nobody else seems to see it the way you do, but forking threads about this issue and responding to the threads over and over again are not going to change that. Your own constraints are so specific that you truly have created a no-win situation for yourself. there literally isn't another solution, go play something else. If not 3.5, then maybe pathfinder or GURPS or a retro-clone. These are all also great games, they have their own differences, plusses, and minuses from 4e, but I can safely guess that they will each not have an issue of a bloodclaw weapon being better than a similarly leveled artifact and that therefore you won't have to negative house-rule. With any luck, they will also lack this vague, systemic failure that you also percieve in 4e, though I can't say for sure. But please, just try something else. At this point I can't honestly guess what you want to hear from other people: is it just that you'd like to hear that other people see the same systemic problem with 4e? I will take you at face value that you're not simply trying to bash 4e. I am just stumped at what could possibly solve your predicament short of just trying something new, so that is my recomendation. [/QUOTE]
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