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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4616905" data-attributes="member: 11821"><p>Part of it is psychological. If you can look down at your sheet and you have a really high Strength, you can say, "Sweet! I remember when that was an 18!"</p><p></p><p>Part of it was system. I think you saw all sorts of numbers escalate at high levels in 3e just because the system was made that way.</p><p></p><p>Part of it is a formal or informal "tier" system. The game develops and changes as you advance, making it so high level characters get an emerging and increasing number of possible foes over the course of time. If a chuul is only a little tougher than a hobgoblin, killing a chuul isn't that big a deal.</p><p></p><p>I dunno. I think it's a natural outgrowth of how D&D developed in 3e and 4e. In 1e/2e, your characters had largely static statistics, and the power development was fairly narrow over the course of your career. In 3e and 4e, characters' power development is a lot more extreme. A 20th-level 1e fighter is very powerful compared to a 1st-level 1e fighter; but a 20th-level 3e fighter is dramatically and intensely more powerful than a 1st-level 3e fighter.</p><p></p><p>-O</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 4616905, member: 11821"] Part of it is psychological. If you can look down at your sheet and you have a really high Strength, you can say, "Sweet! I remember when that was an 18!" Part of it was system. I think you saw all sorts of numbers escalate at high levels in 3e just because the system was made that way. Part of it is a formal or informal "tier" system. The game develops and changes as you advance, making it so high level characters get an emerging and increasing number of possible foes over the course of time. If a chuul is only a little tougher than a hobgoblin, killing a chuul isn't that big a deal. I dunno. I think it's a natural outgrowth of how D&D developed in 3e and 4e. In 1e/2e, your characters had largely static statistics, and the power development was fairly narrow over the course of your career. In 3e and 4e, characters' power development is a lot more extreme. A 20th-level 1e fighter is very powerful compared to a 1st-level 1e fighter; but a 20th-level 3e fighter is dramatically and intensely more powerful than a 1st-level 3e fighter. -O [/QUOTE]
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