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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4573150" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Every PHB sold isn't a potential player, though. And, especially, every PHB sold isn't a potential player <em>for you</em> (or for me, or for any random individual). Good general PHB sales doesn't mean I'm more likely to find players, really.</p><p></p><p>The only thing that really controls that is how robust and avid the gaming community is in your given locality.</p><p></p><p>If I was to try and find a 4e game to play in, I might have a heck of a time, or not, and the general sales of 4e PHs doesn't impact that on a very direct level at all. Locality matters more. Timing matters more. Interpersonal skills matter more. Sales of the 4e PH don't enter into it really.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It doesn't mean they like it, though. It means they bought it. Maybe they bought it and hated it.</p><p></p><p>It also doesn't mean that MOST people like it. Going gold isn't very big news for someone like Kanye because the distribution system in place is so huge that you need to go gold practially just to fill store shelves.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How do you actually look for new music? Do you scan the billboard top 100 list, or do you ask your friend what that sweet track he played at the party was? Do you request sales figures from the distributor, or do you do a google search for that soundtrack you liked the music of? Do you follow a band? Or do you follow trends? Do you care what's gone gold? Would you not buy the Kanye album if it didn't go gold? Assuming you're not a fan of Jay-Z, would you then buy the Jay-Z album because it's ranked high on Itunes? </p><p></p><p>Functionally, how does it happen?</p><p></p><p>D&D spreads like some of niche music, in general -- like a piece of culture, passed from people who know about it to outsiders who are might be interested in it. You find D&D is relevant to you because your buddy down at the comic book shop is playing a game and wants you in. Or, at least, that's the way I spread D&D (and other PnPRPGs). That's how I found D&D, and most of the people I've introduced to D&D found it through me. They didn't ask about sales at their local borders store.</p><p></p><p>Sales don't know you half as well as your friends know you, and I wouldn't buy anything just because it hit some sort of sales milestone. "Over 100,000 sold!" doesn't mean anything to me personally. It certainly doesn't give ME a reason to buy it. </p><p></p><p>It's possible I'm a freak of nature, but my third nipple and fifth eye and thirteenth fingers all say that I'm not. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not really. People buy things they hate all the time (ah, brand loyalty!). And even if it was, it'd be a lousy indicator that I would like it. Sales figures generally don't sell D&D products. Word-of-mouth sells D&D products, just like it sells a lot of music in recent years. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4573150, member: 2067"] Every PHB sold isn't a potential player, though. And, especially, every PHB sold isn't a potential player [I]for you[/I] (or for me, or for any random individual). Good general PHB sales doesn't mean I'm more likely to find players, really. The only thing that really controls that is how robust and avid the gaming community is in your given locality. If I was to try and find a 4e game to play in, I might have a heck of a time, or not, and the general sales of 4e PHs doesn't impact that on a very direct level at all. Locality matters more. Timing matters more. Interpersonal skills matter more. Sales of the 4e PH don't enter into it really. It doesn't mean they like it, though. It means they bought it. Maybe they bought it and hated it. It also doesn't mean that MOST people like it. Going gold isn't very big news for someone like Kanye because the distribution system in place is so huge that you need to go gold practially just to fill store shelves. How do you actually look for new music? Do you scan the billboard top 100 list, or do you ask your friend what that sweet track he played at the party was? Do you request sales figures from the distributor, or do you do a google search for that soundtrack you liked the music of? Do you follow a band? Or do you follow trends? Do you care what's gone gold? Would you not buy the Kanye album if it didn't go gold? Assuming you're not a fan of Jay-Z, would you then buy the Jay-Z album because it's ranked high on Itunes? Functionally, how does it happen? D&D spreads like some of niche music, in general -- like a piece of culture, passed from people who know about it to outsiders who are might be interested in it. You find D&D is relevant to you because your buddy down at the comic book shop is playing a game and wants you in. Or, at least, that's the way I spread D&D (and other PnPRPGs). That's how I found D&D, and most of the people I've introduced to D&D found it through me. They didn't ask about sales at their local borders store. Sales don't know you half as well as your friends know you, and I wouldn't buy anything just because it hit some sort of sales milestone. "Over 100,000 sold!" doesn't mean anything to me personally. It certainly doesn't give ME a reason to buy it. It's possible I'm a freak of nature, but my third nipple and fifth eye and thirteenth fingers all say that I'm not. ;) Not really. People buy things they hate all the time (ah, brand loyalty!). And even if it was, it'd be a lousy indicator that I would like it. Sales figures generally don't sell D&D products. Word-of-mouth sells D&D products, just like it sells a lot of music in recent years. ;) [/QUOTE]
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