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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zaruthustran" data-source="post: 4012046" data-attributes="member: 1457">Great post, Wyrmshadows. I've looked at the same material and come to a different conclusion (I'm looking forward to 4E), but you did a great job of explaining your rationale. I can see where you're coming from.I think one of the reasons I'm pro 4E is that the elements you pointed out (more gamist, moving to squares, etc.) are very appealing to me. Even the "be all you can be" bits; I believe that entertainment games (as opposed to educational/simulation games) are essentially wish-fulfillment. 4E seems to be all about making it easier to pretend to be a heroic warrior or dynamic mage, and to make the experience of pretending to be a fantasy hero even more fun and exciting than ever before. I'm all for that. I don't play D&D as an exercise in simulating medieval life/combat (I do SCA for that). I play it because it's fun to sit around a table with friends and go on epic adventures together, killing monsters and taking their stuff.As for the tiefling and booby dragonborn, I can take that or leave it. They're just two of many tools in the toolchest that is the PHB. When my buddies and I build a game, we pick and choose which tools to use. Maybe we'll include the tiefling and leave out the dragonborn, maybe we'll play an all-human campaign. I'm not at all concerned about which races are included since we as a group can make that choice ourselves. I'm much more concerned about mechanics like combat, magic, and character progression--systemic elements that are much harder to tinker with/adjust without risking screwing up the whole game.</blockquote>

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