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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nonsi256" data-source="post: 5052263" data-attributes="member: 86164">>> nonsi, you may want to note that sort of>> thing and modify your rules appropriately.ValhallaGH, I’m not sure what specifically you were referring to on this one.>> How would you do an Immovable Rod with this?Make an appropriate spell.>> What about an Apparatus of Kwalish?As I said, I’m still not sure what to do with magical vehicles.Guess I’ll leave it aside until I’m done with carryable items.>> Ok, the document still needs a lot of work. Yes Anton, I agree, but I feel it’s more about refinement & clarifications than raw mass.>> Example: "Making a +1 Flaming Sword"The +1 amounts to an emanating 1st level spell, caster level 1st (This amounts to [6 x 1000] (base) + 5% of base = 6300).As for the “Flaming” effect – this could also be a 1st level spell as far as I care (quite similar to Shocking Grasp).The effect is emanating and can be turned on & off without spell completion, so it’s 6300 + 10% of base = 6900Overall, you get 13200gp.Is it a lot? Sure.Frodo’s Mithril sword & chainshirt were wonderful trophies in the quest to save the world, not casual items.Narsil / Arendil was the shining beacon that led the armies of light against the forces of darkness (twice across 3 millennia).3e has degraded magical items to a level of pocket change and now characters aren’t worth squat unless they have enough magical gear to make them anywhere from 4 to 8 CR higher than what they’re worth without them, and spellcasters are thoroughly planned according to the items players are planning for them to be totin (Double Wand Wielder anyone? I mean, what kind of a f#cked up theme is that?!).And while we’re at it, here are 2 more examples:Non-rechargeable Wand of Fireball with 20 charges for 7d6:- Temporary 3rd level effect (+3000)- Caster level 7th (+1050)- Non-rechargeable (-750)- 20 charges (+6000)This amounts to: 9300gpRing of invisibility 3 per hour that activates by rubbing the ring and operates at 5th caster level:- Permanent 2nd level power (+10000)- Caster level 5th (+2500)- Hourly use (-1000)- 3 “charges” (+3000)- Can be turned on/off with no spell completion and no voice requirement (+2000)This amounts to: 16500gp>> Your system is based upon the spell, not>> upon the effect you want to generate.Sure, I mean, how would one put an effect into an item without knowing how to generate it in the first place?>>There are no Flaming Burst3rd level tops.>>Vorpral5th or 6th would be ok, I guess.>> Portable Hole spellsToo Bugsbunny / Roadrunner anyway (how nice of the Ethereal/Astral/Shadow plane to reserve a safe deposit box for anyone who orders a ticket).>> 20k for a +1 item is way beyond the cost of a +1 item in core DnD.Guess you got the answer for that one.>> "Will your system save me any time"Well, the next version will include a note that all percentage-based calculations are made against the initial prices. Plus, I'll add the examples given above.This shoud definitely save time in figuring my intentions.>> It seems to me that you are just trying to provoke meSure, ever since I laid eyes on these boards, I’ve been asking myself “man, I don’t like this Hawken guy, what do I have to do to get him ticked off?”Maybe if you repeat that enough times you might actually start believing it.>> you have largely ignored or refused to read what's in>> the DMG. The book is fairly easy to understand.And that’s why I’ve encountered literally hundreds of questions, arguments and debates over magical items’ pricing, I suppose.>> Don't put words in my mouth or assume>> I'm assuming something.When you’re saying that 10 out of 11 tables are practically unnecessary, you’re making a statement. Whether or not you subscribe for that statement is impossible to guess.</blockquote>

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