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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LuYangShih" data-source="post: 741202" data-attributes="member: 10414">To clarify my earlier statement:Alright, Secular Humanoidism states that the "Gods" are nothing more than extremely powerful beings who utilize those powers to gain worship and dominion over lesser beings, correct?  Clerics are the tool used to achieve this end.  However, Secular Humanoidism fails to address the following question:1.  If all the Gods are is incredibly powerful beings, why would they care whether or not they were worshipped?  Sure, maybe a few of them would find it amusing to gain lesser beings unquestioned devotion, but there would have to be at least a few that wouldn't bother unless they gained something from it.  So, why do the Gods require worship from the lesser beings?The answer is clear to any who have studied the rise and fall of the beings we know as "Gods".  The more beings that worship Gods, the more power they attain.  Gods who have no worshippers have far less power than those with numerous supplicants.  So, Gods gain power from the belief sentient beings place in them.Secular Humanoidism does point out the interesting fact that Clerics can draw upon great power even when they claim they are not worshipping a specific deity.  Yet, even those Clerics draw their powers from an established belief system.  And they gain as much power as other, denominational Clerics.I postulate the theory that "Gods" are simply representatives of a certain belief system.  A focal point for a nexus of power emanating from belief and faith.  Anyone who believes in the concept, application and power of that which a certain God represents believes in that particular God.  So, a Cleric who believes in, say, war, battle, and strength of arm is gaining his power from Tempus as much as the Cleric who acknowledges where he draws his power from.  And both grant Tempus greater amounts of power through their beliefs.So, rather than the overlord and slave relationship that Secular Humanoidism claims exists, I think that Gods and their followers exist in a symbiotic relationship that strengthens and supports both.  And indeed, the Gods are not false beacons of great power, but representatives of a belief system that grants great power.  So, Secular Humanoidism is clearly mistaken in it's beliefs.</blockquote>

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