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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 454637" data-attributes="member: 1328">A forsaker would probably not make the distinction between magic and psionic. To the common man, there's no difference between a weirdo that says strange words and makes strange gesture that cause you to be swallowed by an hellish ball of green-white flames and a weirdo that have funky effects around him that causes you to be swallowed&nbsp; an hellish ball of green-white flames.In both case, it's supernatural and EVIIIL ! Burn the witch ! Burn ! Burn !What means do a forsaker have to know what the difference between magic and psionic (even in a &quot;it's different&quot; setting) ? Casting antimagic. If the weird effect is still here, then it's psionic. Problem, a forsaker isn't going to cast dispel magic of antimagic zone. In fact, a forsaker is likely to butcher with an axe the learned wizard who would told you this subtlety to begin with; so he won't know it.If it's innate, it's psionic. Magic comes from books. Problem, sorcery is magic and innate also.Whatever how psionic works in your game, psionic effects are obviously supernatural; hence magic. The summoned astral construct IS magic. The biocurrent electric field coming from the psion's fingertips IS magic.It's always unnatural and corrupting and bad and ugly and sinful and evil and MAGIC ! Burn !Simply put, forsakers are likely to be neither smart enough nor open-minded enough to make a difference between magic and psionic.And the whole concept is just as lame as the aforementionned half-dragon celestial paragon gelatinous cube cleric/shadowdancer of Pelor. That's just my not that humble opinion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gez, post: 454637, member: 1328"] A forsaker would probably not make the distinction between magic and psionic. To the common man, there's no difference between a weirdo that says strange words and makes strange gesture that cause you to be swallowed by an hellish ball of green-white flames and a weirdo that have funky effects around him that causes you to be swallowed an hellish ball of green-white flames. In both case, it's supernatural and EVIIIL ! Burn the witch ! Burn ! Burn ! What means do a forsaker have to know what the difference between magic and psionic (even in a "it's different" setting) ? Casting antimagic. If the weird effect is still here, then it's psionic. Problem, a forsaker isn't going to cast dispel magic of antimagic zone. In fact, a forsaker is likely to butcher with an axe the learned wizard who would told you this subtlety to begin with; so he won't know it. If it's innate, it's psionic. Magic comes from books. Problem, sorcery is magic and innate also. Whatever how psionic works in your game, psionic effects are obviously supernatural; hence magic. The summoned astral construct IS magic. The biocurrent electric field coming from the psion's fingertips IS magic. It's always unnatural and corrupting and bad and ugly and sinful and evil and MAGIC ! Burn ! Simply put, forsakers are likely to be neither smart enough nor open-minded enough to make a difference between magic and psionic. And the whole concept is just as lame as the aforementionned half-dragon celestial paragon gelatinous cube cleric/shadowdancer of Pelor. That's just my not that humble opinion. [/QUOTE]

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