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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 374703" data-attributes="member: 3929">Thanks kreynoldsAnalysis of MM selection:DR for the forsaker is either innate, or not. Let us consider the case that the forsaker ability of DR is not innate.This is the only relevant wording:&nbsp;You can see that it is not possible (even if they say it in MotW) for the forsaker to have damage reduction: a forsaker has no innate damage reduction. Because this quote does not mention the possibility of DR as a learned, extraordinary ability (which we decided it is for now) this quote can have no bearing on our decision. Evidently the rules in MotW superscede these concerning PCs with DR. We are reverted to the two interpretations of the descriptions I posted above.Now let us consider the case that a forsaker's DR is innate.&quot;weapons count as the type that ignore its own innate DR&quot; It says nothing of wether that ability is activated, or not. Unless you see this as more support for the favorable interpretation (active or not, a forsaker's innate DR is a forsaker's innate DR. Can't be changed), it can have no bearing on the discussion.In summary: The description in the MM has not supported the unfavorable interpretation; it has supported the favorable interpretation, weakly, but some support is evident.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felix, post: 374703, member: 3929"] Thanks kreynolds [B]Analysis of MM selection:[/B] DR for the forsaker is either innate, or not. Let us consider the case that the forsaker ability of DR is not innate. This is the only relevant wording: You can see that it is not possible (even if they say it in MotW) for the forsaker to have damage reduction: a forsaker has no [I]innate[/I] damage reduction. Because this quote does not mention the possibility of DR as a [I]learned, extraordinary[/I] ability (which we decided it is for now) this quote can have no bearing on our decision. Evidently the rules in MotW superscede these concerning PCs with DR. We are reverted to the two interpretations of the descriptions I posted above. Now let us consider the case that a forsaker's DR is innate. "weapons count as the type that ignore its own innate DR" It says nothing of wether that ability is activated, or not. Unless you see this as more support for the favorable interpretation (active or not, a forsaker's innate DR is a forsaker's innate DR. Can't be changed), it can have no bearing on the discussion. In summary: The description in the MM has not supported the unfavorable interpretation; it has supported the favorable interpretation, weakly, but some support is evident. [/QUOTE]

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