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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the-golem" data-source="post: 5076202" data-attributes="member: 87242">I joined into campaign with my friends a while ago, and having played a little, I'm now level 6. So, I went and updated the character using the WotC Character Builder, and noticed some ... wierdness ... regarding the Fortitude Defense when I printed the sheet. First, I should point out that I have the Stout Shield feat, which adds the shield bonus to my fort.So, using my math, at level 6 I should have:10+half-level = 13 ability mod = +4 class = 2 enh (amulet of protection = 1 racial mod (human = 1 misc (from feat) = 2 ------------- 13+4+2+1+1+2 = 23 The Character Builder, however, speweed out these numbers:10+half-level = 13 abil = 4 class = 2 enh = 1 misc = 5 misc = -2 -------------------- 13+4+2+1+4-2 = 23 Now, I know that the end-result is the same, but I cant figure out for the life of my why it's adding another 2, and then subtracting it again.I tested this by unequiping the shield and then viewing the char sheet, and the misc column changed to a simple +1. This makes sense, no shield no bonus. but ... Where on Oerth are they getting these numbers? Has anyone else had this issue??Thanks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></blockquote>