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<blockquote data-quote="cheard" data-source="post: 5299968" data-attributes="member: 64892"><p>Based on what I've heard in interviews/recordings from GenCon, I'm assuming they'll be very 4e-specific. At least, I hope so. 4e, Pathfinder, M&M, etc. are similar enough that some cards could potentially cross systems, but only if written as least common denominator effects, which wouldn't really be very interesting. Take something as simple as "+1 speed" … that doesn't translate so well across 4e, Pathfinder, and M&M. For more examples, grab a Paizo Critical Hits deck; I used one for my 3.5e games, but it doesn't translate well to 4e.</p><p></p><p>I'm very interested to see how well these Fortune Cards work out, and I'm eager to give them a shot at my table. It's worth noting (must type that phrase very carefully, to avoid introducing a game-changing "h") that there are at least one or two third-party Fortune Card type products in the PDF product marketplace. Everybody knows these are completely optional products to be used at the DM's discretion. Just because it's WotC publishing Fortune Cards doesn't give Fortune Cards a different status in this regard; they're still optional products to be used at the DM's discretion, just like D&D Miniatures.</p><p></p><p>On a slightly different note, I've been confused by a couple of comments in earlier posts. I did not have the presence of mind to copy the links and such (sorry!), but here goes.</p><p></p><p>First, WotC has not eliminated the D&D Minis line in favor of tokens. They have repackaged the minis line back into randomly-packed boosters, increased the price <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" />, and introduced a fourth level of super-rare frequency <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/rant.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rant:" title="Rant :rant:" data-shortname=":rant:" />, but they haven't given up on the minis line. At least, I am not aware of any such announcement. Certainly we have the Lords of Madness set coming in September, and the "limited edition" Beholders set coming out in October. The inclusion of tokens in Game Day materials and the new boxed sets is both a cost-saving measure and a gateway drug to actual miniatures. It gives new DMs and players—or those who haven't invested in miniatures—a way to represent the monsters and PCs on the table right away, but it doesn't presage a complete abandonment of WotC minis, <em>as far as I can tell given my current level of information about the subject.</em></p><p></p><p>Second, as much fun as Hasbro-bashing might seem, it's precisely WotC's relationship with Hasbro that allows them to produce Dungeon Tiles, the new tokens, and such and sell them at relatively low prices. Or at least so I was told by a WotC employee just before WotC switched from the DT series to the DU series of Dungeon Tiles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cheard, post: 5299968, member: 64892"] Based on what I've heard in interviews/recordings from GenCon, I'm assuming they'll be very 4e-specific. At least, I hope so. 4e, Pathfinder, M&M, etc. are similar enough that some cards could potentially cross systems, but only if written as least common denominator effects, which wouldn't really be very interesting. Take something as simple as "+1 speed" … that doesn't translate so well across 4e, Pathfinder, and M&M. For more examples, grab a Paizo Critical Hits deck; I used one for my 3.5e games, but it doesn't translate well to 4e. I'm very interested to see how well these Fortune Cards work out, and I'm eager to give them a shot at my table. It's worth noting (must type that phrase very carefully, to avoid introducing a game-changing "h") that there are at least one or two third-party Fortune Card type products in the PDF product marketplace. Everybody knows these are completely optional products to be used at the DM's discretion. Just because it's WotC publishing Fortune Cards doesn't give Fortune Cards a different status in this regard; they're still optional products to be used at the DM's discretion, just like D&D Miniatures. On a slightly different note, I've been confused by a couple of comments in earlier posts. I did not have the presence of mind to copy the links and such (sorry!), but here goes. First, WotC has not eliminated the D&D Minis line in favor of tokens. They have repackaged the minis line back into randomly-packed boosters, increased the price :mad:, and introduced a fourth level of super-rare frequency :rant:, but they haven't given up on the minis line. At least, I am not aware of any such announcement. Certainly we have the Lords of Madness set coming in September, and the "limited edition" Beholders set coming out in October. The inclusion of tokens in Game Day materials and the new boxed sets is both a cost-saving measure and a gateway drug to actual miniatures. It gives new DMs and players—or those who haven't invested in miniatures—a way to represent the monsters and PCs on the table right away, but it doesn't presage a complete abandonment of WotC minis, [I]as far as I can tell given my current level of information about the subject.[/I] Second, as much fun as Hasbro-bashing might seem, it's precisely WotC's relationship with Hasbro that allows them to produce Dungeon Tiles, the new tokens, and such and sell them at relatively low prices. Or at least so I was told by a WotC employee just before WotC switched from the DT series to the DU series of Dungeon Tiles. [/QUOTE]
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