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<blockquote data-quote="jimmifett" data-source="post: 5464918" data-attributes="member: 55006"><p>That's when a DM makes informed decisions to allow the player the ability to use something they find exciting, but perhaps puts limitations on usage. For example, while the non-LFR deck rules do not appear to limit dupe cards at the moment, simply enacting that rule from LFR at the table significantly eliminates abuse. The DM could tell the player "sure, we can use those, but we're going to use them as a communal deck." Finding a way to tell a player yes, but with conditions, is a lot more fun for everyone than saying no. Good DMs know something is overpowered when they see it and will try to reign it in. Fortune cards are far from over powered provided good deck construction rules.</p><p></p><p>What I am addressing is the out right dismissal of a product based on flawed perceptions of it's implementation and goals, some sort of envy or jealousy of others ability to bypass randomized distribution with money, that somehow money equals an uber-deck, or a company's desire to make money via an interesting product that may have demand. I'm looking at a list of all the cards, and the rares do not seem to be any more powerful on average that uncommon or common.</p><p></p><p>Where is the discussion of how useful they can be, ratings of each card, how they can be improved, alternate rules and uses, etc? Instead, for the most part, there is a dogpile of "big evil corporation making a profit", "rich-kid jealousy", and other "have vs have not" gnashing of teeth without even trying the product. Pre-conceived judgements adults kept telling us not to make back when we were growing up.</p><p></p><p>Then again, this is the intertubes and is to be expected i guess... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>Bottom line, players and DMs, give it a chance. Maybe you'll still hate it, maybe not, but don't use class warfare arguments to dismiss them as that argument just doesn't hold water with these.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jimmifett, post: 5464918, member: 55006"] That's when a DM makes informed decisions to allow the player the ability to use something they find exciting, but perhaps puts limitations on usage. For example, while the non-LFR deck rules do not appear to limit dupe cards at the moment, simply enacting that rule from LFR at the table significantly eliminates abuse. The DM could tell the player "sure, we can use those, but we're going to use them as a communal deck." Finding a way to tell a player yes, but with conditions, is a lot more fun for everyone than saying no. Good DMs know something is overpowered when they see it and will try to reign it in. Fortune cards are far from over powered provided good deck construction rules. What I am addressing is the out right dismissal of a product based on flawed perceptions of it's implementation and goals, some sort of envy or jealousy of others ability to bypass randomized distribution with money, that somehow money equals an uber-deck, or a company's desire to make money via an interesting product that may have demand. I'm looking at a list of all the cards, and the rares do not seem to be any more powerful on average that uncommon or common. Where is the discussion of how useful they can be, ratings of each card, how they can be improved, alternate rules and uses, etc? Instead, for the most part, there is a dogpile of "big evil corporation making a profit", "rich-kid jealousy", and other "have vs have not" gnashing of teeth without even trying the product. Pre-conceived judgements adults kept telling us not to make back when we were growing up. Then again, this is the intertubes and is to be expected i guess... :p Bottom line, players and DMs, give it a chance. Maybe you'll still hate it, maybe not, but don't use class warfare arguments to dismiss them as that argument just doesn't hold water with these. [/QUOTE]
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