Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
Fortune Magazine: How Nintendo is beating Sony and Microsoft
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="TwistedBishop" data-source="post: 3642257" data-attributes="member: 12503"><p>I've never said that games aren't important. I'm not interested in arguing that a game console would sell even without games (unlike certain Sony executives). However dismissing price is taking a myopic view on the situation.</p><p></p><p>There's a reason why most console sales happen below a certain price point (and why a lot of people picked up the Wii on almost a whim). Because price, despite how great something may be, determines what people will and will not even consider buying. Right now, at the sort of prices Sony is charging, they're in the ultra hardcore demographic of video game players. More games will encourage more of those people, sure, but the pool of possible consumers is still limited to those willing and able to drop $600 on a video game system.</p><p></p><p>Microsoft has a software library which, apparently, even at $400 (a price point that never worked before in video game history) is able to sell twice as many consoles to consumers as the PS3. Meanwhile, Microsoft is long overdue to drop the Premium's price down to $300, while Sony will struggle to even make $500 this Christmas season. </p><p></p><p>What are the people who only play Madden each year supposed to buy? The console that can play BluRay movies for the HDTV they don't have? </p><p></p><p>What about the people who only play GTA? (That series which sold 14 million copies last time around.) </p><p></p><p>Those are a huge number of sales to lose. </p><p></p><p>Heavenly Sword, Ratchet, Drake's Fortune, Lair, and Warhawk will move consoles. But not as many at $600 as $400. Meanwhile Microsoft is coming out with some, it's fair to say, much more hotly anticipated titles this holiday, while already at that lower price point (and with the potential to dip even further). Lower prices equal more possible consumers; more possible consumers equal more sales; which equals a bigger install base; which generates more exclusive deals; which leads to even greater sales; which lead to even more exclusives. </p><p></p><p>This is a race Sony is going to lose, and if they do it's because they handed the victory to Microsoft.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwistedBishop, post: 3642257, member: 12503"] I've never said that games aren't important. I'm not interested in arguing that a game console would sell even without games (unlike certain Sony executives). However dismissing price is taking a myopic view on the situation. There's a reason why most console sales happen below a certain price point (and why a lot of people picked up the Wii on almost a whim). Because price, despite how great something may be, determines what people will and will not even consider buying. Right now, at the sort of prices Sony is charging, they're in the ultra hardcore demographic of video game players. More games will encourage more of those people, sure, but the pool of possible consumers is still limited to those willing and able to drop $600 on a video game system. Microsoft has a software library which, apparently, even at $400 (a price point that never worked before in video game history) is able to sell twice as many consoles to consumers as the PS3. Meanwhile, Microsoft is long overdue to drop the Premium's price down to $300, while Sony will struggle to even make $500 this Christmas season. What are the people who only play Madden each year supposed to buy? The console that can play BluRay movies for the HDTV they don't have? What about the people who only play GTA? (That series which sold 14 million copies last time around.) Those are a huge number of sales to lose. Heavenly Sword, Ratchet, Drake's Fortune, Lair, and Warhawk will move consoles. But not as many at $600 as $400. Meanwhile Microsoft is coming out with some, it's fair to say, much more hotly anticipated titles this holiday, while already at that lower price point (and with the potential to dip even further). Lower prices equal more possible consumers; more possible consumers equal more sales; which equals a bigger install base; which generates more exclusive deals; which leads to even greater sales; which lead to even more exclusives. This is a race Sony is going to lose, and if they do it's because they handed the victory to Microsoft. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
Fortune Magazine: How Nintendo is beating Sony and Microsoft
Top