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<blockquote data-quote="Ankh-Morpork Guard" data-source="post: 3643570" data-attributes="member: 10079"><p>But someone buying a PS2 now is not buying a PS3. Yes, the price difference between the two is huge, but they're both from the same company. By supporting both, Sony is possibly shipping less PS3s due to the PS2s still out there selling.</p><p></p><p>Of course, with the way Sony has been losing money over the past months, the PS2 is probably the only way they're making much at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See, I don't agree they aren't in the same console cycle. I think the idea that huge jumps in graphics and all that are necessary for that kind of thing isn't true at all. The Wii IS the same cycle as the 360 and PS3. In fact, calling it a cycle behind or 'last generation' actually is a bigger boost to Nintendo and a harder hit for the other two...since that would mean they're losing to something 'outdated'.</p><p></p><p>And as for the big guns...well, the 360s been out a good while now. Sure, its got more big guns coming(Halo 3 a huge one along with Mass Effect), but really, you can't say that they don't have huge games now. And despite the big guns they already have out, the Wii is still doing insanely well.</p><p></p><p>As for Sony, you're right that their big success for the PS2 was game selection. Most of those were because they were exclusive. This generation they have...Metal Gear and Final Fantasy. But even then, Nintendo's getting more Final Fantasy for the Wii(Crystal Chronicles), and the 360 is getting most of their old exclusives. The old 'big guns' for Sony just aren't there anymore. In fact, one thing that kind of bothers me about the so called 'big guns' for both the 360 and the PS3 is they're usually FPS games, which are all, essentially, the same game with different window dressing put on it.</p><p></p><p>And it should also be mentioned that Nintendo still has big guns to put out, too. Super Mario Galaxy looks absolutely amazing, and Metroid Prime 3 is sure to sell a ton along with Super Smash. Not to mention the so-called 'casual' games like Wii Fit and other very unique games that sell insanely well to the disbelief of so many(truthfully, me included).</p><p></p><p>So its not just big guns for Sony and Microsoft. And Sony really badly needs some heavy hitters to step up and compete with both the 360 and the Wii.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Changing their mind probably wasn't the best choice of words. It just bothers me how much different parts of the company continually say different things that completely contradict one another. </p><p></p><p>And yeah, the PS2 took a bit to really get going, but it had games coming on the horizon that would really sell systems. And not just a few, it had a ton coming and we knew it. This generation is just a different beast. The 3rd party guys are branching out much, much more, and exclusives just aren't as common as they were. The same games are commonly comming out for all three systems and that really hurts Sony a great deal since they're old big guns just aren't completely their's anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ankh-Morpork Guard, post: 3643570, member: 10079"] But someone buying a PS2 now is not buying a PS3. Yes, the price difference between the two is huge, but they're both from the same company. By supporting both, Sony is possibly shipping less PS3s due to the PS2s still out there selling. Of course, with the way Sony has been losing money over the past months, the PS2 is probably the only way they're making much at all. See, I don't agree they aren't in the same console cycle. I think the idea that huge jumps in graphics and all that are necessary for that kind of thing isn't true at all. The Wii IS the same cycle as the 360 and PS3. In fact, calling it a cycle behind or 'last generation' actually is a bigger boost to Nintendo and a harder hit for the other two...since that would mean they're losing to something 'outdated'. And as for the big guns...well, the 360s been out a good while now. Sure, its got more big guns coming(Halo 3 a huge one along with Mass Effect), but really, you can't say that they don't have huge games now. And despite the big guns they already have out, the Wii is still doing insanely well. As for Sony, you're right that their big success for the PS2 was game selection. Most of those were because they were exclusive. This generation they have...Metal Gear and Final Fantasy. But even then, Nintendo's getting more Final Fantasy for the Wii(Crystal Chronicles), and the 360 is getting most of their old exclusives. The old 'big guns' for Sony just aren't there anymore. In fact, one thing that kind of bothers me about the so called 'big guns' for both the 360 and the PS3 is they're usually FPS games, which are all, essentially, the same game with different window dressing put on it. And it should also be mentioned that Nintendo still has big guns to put out, too. Super Mario Galaxy looks absolutely amazing, and Metroid Prime 3 is sure to sell a ton along with Super Smash. Not to mention the so-called 'casual' games like Wii Fit and other very unique games that sell insanely well to the disbelief of so many(truthfully, me included). So its not just big guns for Sony and Microsoft. And Sony really badly needs some heavy hitters to step up and compete with both the 360 and the Wii. Changing their mind probably wasn't the best choice of words. It just bothers me how much different parts of the company continually say different things that completely contradict one another. And yeah, the PS2 took a bit to really get going, but it had games coming on the horizon that would really sell systems. And not just a few, it had a ton coming and we knew it. This generation is just a different beast. The 3rd party guys are branching out much, much more, and exclusives just aren't as common as they were. The same games are commonly comming out for all three systems and that really hurts Sony a great deal since they're old big guns just aren't completely their's anymore. [/QUOTE]
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