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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ankh-Morpork Guard" data-source="post: 3643715" data-attributes="member: 10079">That's possible, but one of the things that could realy help move PS3s is that they can play PS2 games(Well, all of them before and who knows how many after the 80GB is out...hopefully most). So, like the PS2, one of the big advantages of buying the PS3 is you CAN play the older games. Though, of course, that's true of the GBA/DS, too.But it doesn't seem like the PS2 and PS3 ARE existing just fine in this market. The PS3 isn't selling. The PS2 is. At least with the DS coming out, that sold more...same with the PS2 when it was released over the PS1. But the PS3 just isn't moving enough units and having the PS2 out can't be helping that.I didn't say a thing about comparing the visuals. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />What I DID say was that I don't believe visuals are all that determine what generation a console is.The very fact that a modded Gamecube is outselling two machines that are built around the fact that 'graphics are great' says a great deal about the current market. MS has taken note of this and they've already made mention of trying to tap this market they never thought about before, a market that doesn't value graphics as high as some hardcore gamers. Sony, though, is still playing the same old game.And the simple fact is, the same old thing doesn't work right now. It isn't. Say what you want about Nintendo, with both the DS and the Wii having such insane success, they've proved that the market is shifting(and they're helping to move it), and you can't just rely on graphics and power of a game system to actuall sell things.Sony isn't losing all of them, no, but they're losing most of the ones that used to be considered system sellers. And while some franchises are staying with Sony, there's been branching out(see Final Fantasy), talk of possibly branching out(in the case of Metal Gear, which amazes me), and downright cancelling of games to move to other systems(the new Katamari).Interesting is definitely the word for it.Makes sense. Though I think its bad to ignore the Wii's big guns while mentioning the others, as they have the potential to still pull sales from the other two. You have to consider it all to get a good picture of things.Delays of any of those could really hurt them. There's also the chance that any one of them might end up being so overhyped they just don't live up to it...another thing that could hurt the system.The constant "Over the horizon" feeling for PS3 games may actually hurt it anyway, because when they do come out, even if they're good...will it have been worth the wait?No! Don't ask for clarification! Next thing you know we'll have them telling us that its not a 80GB, but actually a 65GB for only Europe but not Australia and actually for everywhere except the places they didn't say.Its way too early to claim the death of any of the three. However, if Sony doesn't pick up quickly and get some steam going, they're headed for a bad path. The PS2 was slow, but they didn't have the competition then that there is now. Between Nintendo just being a monster out of no where and Microsoft watching both companies and trying to do what they can, Sony has to start making some smart moves soon.</blockquote>

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