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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7827043" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>Exactly. Insight − the ability to read other peoples emotions − namely Empathy − is an extremely important social skill. It needs to relocate to Charisma, along with the rest of the social skills.</p><p></p><p>To put social skills anywhere else is unsatisfying and kludgy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that is the problem. Wisdom needs to cease to exist.</p><p></p><p>Its Insight social skill and its Willpower saving throw (its ‘force of personality’) function more integrally as part of Charisma.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, its Perception skill needs to become part of Intelligence, where it belongs, merging back into Investigation. As such, Intelligence has the Perception saving throw.</p><p></p><p>And there is nothing left that actually belongs to ‘Wisdom’. Wisdom lacks a reason to exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So the solution is, there be only two mental abilities:</p><p></p><p>• Intelligence-(Lore)-Perception-(Investigation-Deception)</p><p></p><p>• Charisma-(Persuasion-Intimidation-Performance)-Wisdom-(Empathy-Willpower)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With regard to the Ranger, why did the class associate with Wisdom? Was it because it was Perceptive or was it because it was social? In the case of the Ranger, it seems to me less social, and more about perceiving the phenomena of Nature and comprehending the sciences of Nature. In other words, Ranger inclines Intelligence-Perception.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In sum, the foursome.</p><p></p><p>• Strength-Constitution</p><p>• Dexterity-Athletics</p><p></p><p>• Intelligence-Perception</p><p>• Charisma-Wisdom</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 7827043, member: 58172"] Exactly. Insight − the ability to read other peoples emotions − namely Empathy − is an extremely important social skill. It needs to relocate to Charisma, along with the rest of the social skills. To put social skills anywhere else is unsatisfying and kludgy. And that is the problem. Wisdom needs to cease to exist. Its Insight social skill and its Willpower saving throw (its ‘force of personality’) function more integrally as part of Charisma. Meanwhile, its Perception skill needs to become part of Intelligence, where it belongs, merging back into Investigation. As such, Intelligence has the Perception saving throw. And there is nothing left that actually belongs to ‘Wisdom’. Wisdom lacks a reason to exist. So the solution is, there be only two mental abilities: • Intelligence-(Lore)-Perception-(Investigation-Deception) • Charisma-(Persuasion-Intimidation-Performance)-Wisdom-(Empathy-Willpower) With regard to the Ranger, why did the class associate with Wisdom? Was it because it was Perceptive or was it because it was social? In the case of the Ranger, it seems to me less social, and more about perceiving the phenomena of Nature and comprehending the sciences of Nature. In other words, Ranger inclines Intelligence-Perception. In sum, the foursome. • Strength-Constitution • Dexterity-Athletics • Intelligence-Perception • Charisma-Wisdom [/QUOTE]
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