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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7831166" data-attributes="member: 58172">I want to give the Initiative bonus to the Intelligence-Perception ability, in the sense of noticing and anticipating an opponent. As such, the surprise check and the initiative check are moreorless the same thing.Tentatively, give Stealth to Intelligence-Perception, in the sense of perceptive motion, knowing which twig to avoid and which shadow would work as cover − both to hide and to detect hiding.With Stealth and Initiative, Intelligence-Perception becomes a full-on useful ability for combat encountersThe following is a start toward a comprehensive list of benefits, to compare balance in more detail.Strength-Constitution• size (+4 or higher as a prereq for Large), reach• melee attacks• ‘heavy’ weapons (benefit from Strength bonus)• ‘heavy’ armor (move at full speed)• grappling (keep on holding)• carrying capacity (lift, pull, push)• brute force (break doors, bend bars, move tree, launch boulder)• hit points• fortitude saveDexterity-Athletics• body agility (athletics-acrobatics, gymnastics, climb, balance, jump, fall, motionless poise)• finesse grappling (sotospeak)• speed, run• AC bonus, dodge• reflex save• manual dexterity (slight-of-hand, detailed handiwork, piloting controls, steady hand)• finesse attacks• ranged attacksIntelligence-Perception• lore skills• investigation (detection, senses, analysis, intuition)• stealth (hide or detect hiding)• initiative bonus• deception (deceive an other, or find a flaw in an others deception, replicate accurately)• perception saveCharisma-Wisdom• rapport (insight, persuasion, animal handling, improve social attitude and helpfulness)• charm• frighten• performance (force of personality, presence, art, esthetic quality, beauty)• will saveCombat wise, Charisma-Wisdom might appear the weak one, but charm and frighten decide if a combat encounter even happens. Note, every frighten check requires a credible threat as a prerequisite. In many situations, being big and threatening to beat someone up can serve as a credible threat.Finesse attacks make Dexterity-Athletics an especially powerful choice, and in a gun setting, ranged attacks make it a must have. Nevertheless, any concepts requiring hit points will need Strength-Constitution anyway, for a more wellrounded combatant. Also, the absence of Stealth here, helps moderate the choice of Dexterity-Athletics.</blockquote>

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