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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 4267056" data-attributes="member: 61155">And, honestly, if I went from the current environment to the three 3rd Edition Core Books, they would feel incomplete as well. I mean, look at one of the biggest innovations of 3rd Edition - Prestige Classes. Of which the core books had... what, a dozen at most? Look at the feats - a few key ones, and a lot of filler. They did have a more comprehensive amount of magic items. On the other hand, trimming down the magic item list meant being able to fit it in the PHB, which is fantastic - and the Tome of Treasures (or whatever it is called) is not far down the line, which should fill things in completely.An instance, as you said, of us needed to get another book to be 'complete' - but the 3rd Edition player with just the PHB was entirely without the magic item rules. He had to buy the DMG just to know what his character could do with his items - which seems an equally profound flaw. I do understand what you are saying. But I don't think the 3rd Edition Core Books were any more all-encompassing. They felt that way because there was no experience with really expanded options - going back to them now would be just as limiting as jumping into 4th Edition. At least, in my opinion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 4267056, member: 61155"] And, honestly, if I went from the current environment to the three 3rd Edition Core Books, they would feel incomplete as well. I mean, look at one of the biggest innovations of 3rd Edition - Prestige Classes. Of which the core books had... what, a dozen at most? Look at the feats - a few key ones, and a lot of filler. They did have a more comprehensive amount of magic items. On the other hand, trimming down the magic item list meant being able to fit it in the PHB, which is fantastic - and the Tome of Treasures (or whatever it is called) is not far down the line, which should fill things in completely. An instance, as you said, of us needed to get another book to be 'complete' - but the 3rd Edition player with just the PHB was entirely without the magic item rules. He had to buy the DMG just to know what his character could do with his items - which seems an equally profound flaw. I do understand what you are saying. But I don't think the 3rd Edition Core Books were any more all-encompassing. They felt that way because there was no experience with really expanded options - going back to them now would be just as limiting as jumping into 4th Edition. At least, in my opinion. [/QUOTE]

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